New Kindles today - Page 3

JSWolf · 10-01-2026, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

So Amazon removes the page turn buttons from the Kindle and then forces you to pay extra to get a special case or Bluetooth remote just to get that feature back again. To me, this smacks of greed.

Manufacturers need to ditch their fetish for making devices thinner and thinner and in the process, they remove user wanted features like page turn buttons and headphone jacks.

Kobo sells a BT page turn gizmo. Nobody said that smacks of greed.

When I got my first iPhone without a headphone jack, I bought a USB-C dongle to 3.5mm headphone jack.I sometimes use it on my laptop even thought it has a headphone jack.

tubemonkey · 10-01-2026, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Kobo sells a BT page turn gizmo. Nobody said that smacks of greed.

When I got my first iPhone without a headphone jack, I bought a USB-C dongle to 3.5mm headphone jack.I sometimes use it on my laptop even thought it has a headphone jack.

Then I'll say it. That smacks of greed too.

I hate dongles. It's something extra to carry, it adds bulk, and you're screwed if you forget to bring it.

Remember this 2008 ad?

nana77 · 10-01-2026, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Then I'll say it. That smacks of greed too.

I hate dongles. It's something extra to carry, it adds bulk, and you're screwed if you forget to bring it.

Remember this 2008 ad?

That already introduced new things

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My favourite of the post-IBM ThinkPad keyboards would be the 'red rubber bumper' X300 keyboards; those feel great but I never looked up who made them. This is (in my opinion) the best ThinkPad keyboard Lenovo has released to date. And I can guarantee there's others who feel the same.

Now onto the issues of the newer Lenovo keyboards.

Modified layouts. Lenovo just couldn't help themselves from modifying the standard ThinkPad layout (which in all honesty is almost as good as the 84-key SSK layout). So on the T420 they did something stupid and enlarged the delete and esc keys. Some may not mind it, but it screws with my touch typing when I'm expecting a consistently sized key.
Removal of the integrated numpad, LED indicators and dedicated audio buttons; why??? People who use a ThinkPad typically want those features.
Push to copy other OEMs with ultimately chiclet keys with a low travel

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=15457
(sorry for the OT)

Dazrin · 10-01-2026, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ApsIsce

Looks like they're using the pogo pins for wireless charging now instead of qi charging

If they are using the pogo pins, then it isn't wireless though, just a different (and unique) method to plug it in. Unless you are saying the case might have a qi wireless charger built in? Seems like that's something they'd advertise.

They have a new charging stand it looks like, so, instead of wireless charging, they have a new $60 single use charger that needs you to remove your new $80 case to use. Great.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H6KXW9ZC

Desertway · 10-01-2026, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Doesn't matter. The case with buttons is just the same as having buttons.

Except you need the SE at $249. Plus the case at $80. Plus the extra weight. And it looks very uncomfortable to hold, with that sharp lip protruding. We'll see about that once it's available.

Sirtel · 10-01-2026, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Doesn't matter. The case with buttons is just the same as having buttons.

Nope. It's not the same thing at all.

jhowell · 10-01-2026, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazrin

They have a new charging stand it looks like, so, instead of wireless charging, they have a new $60 single use charger that needs you to remove your new $80 case to use. Great.

Amazon states, “Charges your Kindle directly, simply remove your cover before docking.” Simply! That sounds like more work than just plugging in a USB-C cable!

cgsmom · 10-01-2026, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The new Kindle SE models give you multiple ways to add buttons. Button lovers should be very happy.

Not hardly. I have a choice of purchasing a case that I may or may not like, or having another device to keep track of. Not to mention that neither choice works on the 2 Kindles I already have. I like my readers that have buttons built in.

jhowell · 10-01-2026, 09:06 PM

Personally, I think that a Bluetooth page turner for Kindles is long overdue. Being able to turn pages without making physical contact with the device and without a clunky clip-on will work great with my reading habits.

JSWolf · 10-01-2026, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Nope. It's not the same thing at all.

Close enough to be as good.

JSWolf · 10-01-2026, 09:09 PM

The BT page turner is an option. You don't have to buy one if you don't want. But if you want, it's available. So it's not greed. It's an option that you don't have to get if you don't want. Now if it was something that should have been included but wasn't then it's greed.

The cover with the buttons is also not greed as it's also an option. I don't want or need buttons as the touchscreen works for me.

Sirtel · 10-01-2026, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Close enough to be as good.

No, it isn't. Not by a long shot.

cgsmom · 10-01-2026, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The BT page turner is an option. You don't have to buy one if you don't want. But if you want, it's available. So it's not greed. It's an option that you don't have to get if you don't want. Now if it was something that should have been included but wasn't then it's greed.

The cover with the buttons is also not greed as it's also an option. I don't want or need buttons as the touchscreen works for me.

Well that is true enough. We all have options. I have the option to buy a Nook or Kobo because they have the option I prefer.

JSWolf · 10-01-2026, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

No, it isn't. Not by a long shot.

It is the same. You get page turn buttons and I don't. Win-Win if we were going to by the new PW8 SE.

DiapDealer · 10-01-2026, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Doesn't matter. The case with buttons is just the same as having buttons.

A device without a case is not the same thing as a device with a case. That seems fairly obvious.

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10-01-2026, 09:06 PM	#39
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,434 Karma: 96111109 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	Personally, I think that a Bluetooth page turner for Kindles is long overdue. Being able to turn pages without making physical contact with the device and without a clunky clip-on will work great with my reading habits.

10-01-2026, 09:09 PM	#41
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 85,186 Karma: 153791427 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The BT page turner is an option. You don't have to buy one if you don't want. But if you want, it's available. So it's not greed. It's an option that you don't have to get if you don't want. Now if it was something that should have been included but wasn't then it's greed. The cover with the buttons is also not greed as it's also an option. I don't want or need buttons as the touchscreen works for me.