Amazon and DRM changes - Page 233

JSWolf · 08-14-2026, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorosan

Is there a way to stop updates from happening automatically?
Even the option to pause updates in the Microsoft Store app is disabled

If you disable the Microsoft Store, then nothing else will update.

DRM still works with the DeDRM for the previous Kindle version.

Sats · 08-15-2026, 04:18 AM

Amazon has been naughty... Try this version and see if it works? There were some changes. Any questions in discussions there, please.

JSWolf · 08-15-2026, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sats

Amazon has been naughty... Try this version and see if it works? There were some changes. Any questions in discussions there, please.

What has changed? When I ran the previous code against two eBooks downloaded from Kindle, it worked.

dorosan · 08-15-2026, 07:29 AM

Dear Sats

Along with certifying you as the first-ever Kindle Caregiving Open-Weight Champion,
we hereby grant you the title of the first Lifetime Honorary Member of the Kindle Victims’ Association

lkmiller · 08-15-2026, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What has changed? When I ran the previous code against two eBooks downloaded from Kindle, it worked.

There are fallbacks. If you have further questions, as Sats said, ask over at the GitHub.

Ma'am-I-Am · 08-15-2026, 07:02 PM

{shrug} I'm still using Sats' 10023 as of last night. Works fine so far, even with the new version of K4W (1022326).

lkmiller · 08-16-2026, 06:16 AM

You're probably fine unless you're starting from scratch with Sats tool.

Desertway · 08-16-2026, 01:19 PM

As my Oasis 3 just got the update, I'm starting new here and it's very confusing. I know there are limits to what I can be told, but should I bother trying to figure it out with the newest Kindle app for windows (Windows 11) and the latest 10.0.29 from Sats? Is it currently working? Thanks.

Edit: Answered my own question. It worked.

kags · 08-16-2026, 02:39 PM

Is there a guide on how to use Sats fork floating around out there?

Desertway · 08-16-2026, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kags

Is there a guide on how to use Sats fork floating around out there?

I couldn’t find a step by step guide (which doesn’t mean there isn’t one). I put it together from the notes on GitHub and a couple of Reddit threads.

JSWolf · 08-16-2026, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desertway

I couldn’t find a step by step guide (which doesn’t mean there isn’t one). I put it together from the notes on GitHub and a couple of Reddit threads.

Actually, using the current DeDRM with the current Kindle app is very very easy. It's just we are not allowed to give detailed instruction here.

kags · 08-16-2026, 04:16 PM

Confirmed that there is some good advice available to those who are willing to look. Cheers.

madelonw · 08-16-2026, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbm

Amazon does away with download for usb in kf8 then my buying on average over 80 ebooks a year with them will stop.

bernie

Edit

I like my kindle but Kobo is for me the way better reading experience.

I've been reading on Kindle since the Kindle II (2008?). Tell me why you think Kobo is the better reading experience. I am loath to change after all this time, but I think I might be persuaded. Since the format changed, I have been able to convert from KFX-ZIP to epub using the new Kindle for Windows and running the files downloaded with Epubor Ultimate. It seems that Amazon must have made yet another change because the files from Kindle for Windows can no longer be converted to epub. Confession time... most of my Kindle library of 92,325 books is made up of Kindle freebies.

DNSB · 08-16-2026, 09:54 PM

Personally, I would dump Epubor since most of what they supply is 'borrowed' from open source programs without bothering to follow the license terms.

Check discussion link here for a ongoing discussion on using Sats' tools for deDRMing and importing Kindle files.

As for why I think a Kobo is a superior reading experience? Kobo ereaders are open so no need to jailbreak/root them.

Want to install a older firmware version? No problem. Just avoid installing a firmware version older than the ereader.

Want to use KOReader or Plato? A simple install away.

Want finer control over font weight? Easily install your fonts? Don't enjoy minimum left/right margins that look like you are reading a MMPB wasting a bit chuck of your screen space?

Want to sync ebooks from a public library that uses OverDrive to your Kobo OTA?

Kobo does follow the ebook CSS so there are times when it can be a pain where a Kindle might override the CSS. Relatively rare and generally easy to fix.

OTOH, Kobo does not sync sideloaded books which for some people is important. Though most of the people I've seen with that as a pro for Amazon don't own multiple Kindles or Amazon apps so I'm not sure why they consider it an advantage.

Sirtel · Yesterday, 01:23 AM

For me (as a former Kindle user) Kobos are much better because

1) they have more options, and you can add even more with patching/editing the configuration file (no jailbreak needed)
2) you can go back to an older firmware version, and not update unless you want to (via the patch that makes the device ask your consent before updating)
3) Seamless integration with calibre - automatic metadata management, automatic collections, series and subtitle support, book synopsis on the device, and more.

About the only drawback is the lack of OTA syncing for sideloaded books. As I didn't use that even with Kindles, it doesn't matter to me.

08-15-2026, 07:02 PM	#3486
Ma'am-I-Am Preferred pronouns: We/Us Posts: 262 Karma: 533346 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: <--- Over There, USA Device: Kindle PW 2	{shrug} I'm still using Sats' 10023 as of last night. Works fine so far, even with the new version of K4W (1022326). Last edited by Ma'am-I-Am; 08-15-2026 at 07:13 PM.

08-16-2026, 06:16 AM	#3487
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,801 Karma: 24046188 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	You're probably fine unless you're starting from scratch with Sats tool. Last edited by lkmiller; 08-16-2026 at 06:22 AM.

08-16-2026, 01:19 PM	#3488
Desertway Evangelist Posts: 410 Karma: 3230804 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Oasis 3, K3, Kobo Clara, Likebook P6	As my Oasis 3 just got the update, I'm starting new here and it's very confusing. I know there are limits to what I can be told, but should I bother trying to figure it out with the newest Kindle app for windows (Windows 11) and the latest 10.0.29 from Sats? Is it currently working? Thanks. Edit: Answered my own question. It worked. Last edited by Desertway; 08-16-2026 at 01:41 PM.

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08-15-2026, 04:18 AM	#3482
Sats Connoisseur Posts: 83 Karma: 1876850 Join Date: Jun 2023 Device: iPhone	Amazon has been naughty... Try this version and see if it works? There were some changes. Any questions in discussions there, please.

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dorosan Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2026 Device: kindle for pc	Dear Sats Along with certifying you as the first-ever Kindle Caregiving Open-Weight Champion, we hereby grant you the title of the first Lifetime Honorary Member of the Kindle Victims’ Association

08-16-2026, 02:39 PM	#3489
kags Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2025 Device: Kindle Paperwhite (Signature)	Is there a guide on how to use Sats fork floating around out there?

08-16-2026, 04:16 PM	#3492
kags Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2025 Device: Kindle Paperwhite (Signature)	Confirmed that there is some good advice available to those who are willing to look. Cheers.

08-16-2026, 09:54 PM	#3494
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 53,837 Karma: 181886195 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Personally, I would dump Epubor since most of what they supply is 'borrowed' from open source programs without bothering to follow the license terms. Check discussion link here for a ongoing discussion on using Sats' tools for deDRMing and importing Kindle files. As for why I think a Kobo is a superior reading experience? Kobo ereaders are open so no need to jailbreak/root them. Want to install a older firmware version? No problem. Just avoid installing a firmware version older than the ereader. Want to use KOReader or Plato? A simple install away. Want finer control over font weight? Easily install your fonts? Don't enjoy minimum left/right margins that look like you are reading a MMPB wasting a bit chuck of your screen space? Want to sync ebooks from a public library that uses OverDrive to your Kobo OTA? Kobo does follow the ebook CSS so there are times when it can be a pain where a Kindle might override the CSS. Relatively rare and generally easy to fix. OTOH, Kobo does not sync sideloaded books which for some people is important. Though most of the people I've seen with that as a pro for Amazon don't own multiple Kindles or Amazon apps so I'm not sure why they consider it an advantage.

Yesterday, 01:23 AM	#3495
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 15,580 Karma: 248046501 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	For me (as a former Kindle user) Kobos are much better because 1) they have more options, and you can add even more with patching/editing the configuration file (no jailbreak needed) 2) you can go back to an older firmware version, and not update unless you want to (via the patch that makes the device ask your consent before updating) 3) Seamless integration with calibre - automatic metadata management, automatic collections, series and subtitle support, book synopsis on the device, and more. About the only drawback is the lack of OTA syncing for sideloaded books. As I didn't use that even with Kindles, it doesn't matter to me.