New Windows Kindle app announced; Current Kindle app unavailable after 30/06/2026

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

They quit doing it right when they started having epub/pdf downloads for them.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

When Amazon dropped Mobi/KF8, they also dropped DRM Free eBooks.

You do know you're saying the same thing as lkmiller, right?

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

When Amazon dropped Mobi/KF8, they also dropped DRM Free eBooks. Without the ePub/PDF downloads, there'd be no more DRM Free.

They stopped showing "simultaneous device usage: unlimited" way back in January at the same time that epub/pdf downloads became available. They only dropped the final method to reliably get new books in mobi/kf8 by cutting off the old Kindles last month.

[Cyclops]

So if I were to upgrade to a new kindle later I will lose any books because of DRM?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

So if I were to upgrade to a new kindle later I will lose any books because of DRM?

You won't lose any books in the sense that they won't disappear from your Amazon account and you'll still be able to read them with a Kindle or a Kindle app. What we're discussing here is removing the DRM with deDRM tools and calibre, for the purpose of reading them on a non-Amazon device or making a personal back-up copy. As you can't do it without a PC, you're presumably not doing it anyway.

[DNSB]

In theory, you can remove the DRM on the Kindle itself without needing a computer. You do need a jailbroken Kindle to make this work.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

In theory, you can remove the DRM on the Kindle itself without needing a computer. You do need a jailbroken Kindle to make this work.

And you need a computer to jailbreak a Kindle.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

They stopped showing "simultaneous device usage: unlimited" way back in January at the same time that epub/pdf downloads became available. They only dropped the final method to reliably get new books in mobi/kf8 by cutting off the old Kindles last month.

I emailed Amazon about adding some indicator that the book would be available for download on the book page prior to purchasing the book. I did get a long (probably AI-enhanced) reply saying my feedback would be sent to the appropriate team. I'm not holding my breath, but better to light a candle than curse the dark.

Here's the email address if anyone else wants to suggest the same: cs-reply@amazon.com

[John F]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I emailed Amazon about adding some indicator that the book would be available for download on the book page prior to purchasing the book. I did get a long (probably AI-enhanced) reply saying my feedback would be sent to the appropriate team. I'm not holding my breath, but better to light a candle than curse the dark.

Here's the email address if anyone else wants to suggest the same: cs-reply@amazon.com

And cc the bezos email address.

[Sirtel]

I don't want Amazon epubs. They're poor quality and have all embedded fonts removed, for example. And sometimes you'll get pdf instead of epub. I prefer to remove the DRM from regular Kindle books or not to buy from Amazon at all.

If Amazon provided the original epub file instead of a sloppy conversion or, worse, pdf, I would love it, and do my part in supporting it. But they don't.

[mallomar]

I came across my first book that lists Kindle for PC support but won't download to the new Kindle for Windows app, throwing up an error that it's not supported on this device. I wonder why that is. I'd use the old app except it would no longer open after updating from 2.8.0 to 2.9.1.

[Apache]

Originally Posted by John F

And cc the bezos email address.

You do realize that Bezos is not running Amazon anymore.
Apache

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by mallomar

I came across my first book that lists Kindle for PC support but won't download to the new Kindle for Windows app, throwing up an error that it's not supported on this device. I wonder why that is. I'd use the old app except it would no longer open after updating from 2.8.0 to 2.9.1.

Interesting. I tried a sample and it downloaded on K4PC 2.9.1 but, as you mentioned, on Kindle for Windows, it is not supported. OTOH, I also found it a bit weird that Kindle for Windows shows up under devices not apps on Amazon's site.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Apache

You do realize that Bezos is not running Amazon anymore.
Apache

Are you aware that Jeff Bezos serves as the Executive Chair of Amazon.com, Inc.?

I would guess that his email is still read (if not by Bezos, then by others).

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Interesting. I tried a sample and it downloaded on K4PC 2.9.1 but, as you mentioned, on Kindle for Windows, it is not supported. OTOH, I also found it a bit weird that Kindle for Windows shows up under devices not apps on Amazon's site.

I also looked at that free sample. From that I see that the book was published in the older Kindle children’s book format that is only delivered in KF8 with no KFX equivalent.

From what I can tell support for KF8 format has been removed from the new Windows app, making that book unavailable on that platform. Perhaps that is something Amazon is planning for the other Kindle apps and devices. Is so then I would expect a KFX version of that book and similar ones to become available soon.

[mallomar]

Originally Posted by jhowell

I also looked at that free sample. From that I see that the book was published in the older Kindle children’s book format that is only delivered in KF8 with no KFX equivalent.

From what I can tell support for KF8 format has been removed from the new Windows app, making that book unavailable on that platform. Perhaps that is something Amazon is planning for the other Kindle apps and devices. Is so then I would expect a KFX version of that book and similar ones to become available soon.

It's odd if that's the case because I've had other books download to the new app as AZW. It's weird that if it supports AZW, an older former, but not the newer KF8/AZW3.