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Old Yesterday, 09:03 PM   #136
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No. We definitely decided covers are optional buttons are mandatory.
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Jon, you buy any reader you want, with the features you want. Don’t you dare tell me what features I need.
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For me buttons are a must. I like holding my Kobo (currently both a Libra Colour and a Libra H2O) with the buttons on the LEFT hand side and the role of the buttons reversed (ie top button forward, bottom button backwards).

I hold the device in my left hand with my left thumb resting on the top button.

I normally do not swipe the screen to change pages.
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Ergonomics are important, but so is screen size, to some of us. I don't want to read on anything smaller than 7", so no phone-shaped ereaders for me. Besides, reading on a relatively narrow screen like phones have seriously sucks, IMO - I hate it. YMMV, of course.
I used to feel the same way, and then for nearly a year ended up doing most of my reading on my phone. The adjustment was rough but the silver lining is being perfectly comfortable with smaller screens now. eInk is at least an upgrade over OLED in terms of eyestrain, and portability is really a priority for me for now. At some point I'll probably have to start making text larger and we'll see what happens then, but hopefully that's at least a few years off.
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No. We definitely decided covers are optional buttons are mandatory.

You like covers which can be added or not to an ereader. Thus optional.

Others like buttons which can not be added later and are thus mandatory. You don’t use them so your opinion of where they should go is going to weigh considerably less than the opinion of those who do. Especially since the horse of the buttons don’t activate without explicit and intentional actions of the user just died and the doctors asked us to stop beating it to death in front of you.
No WE didn't. decide that at all. Covers are necessary and buttons can be purchase as an optional accessory. Kobo sells optional buttons.
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No WE didn't. decide that at all. Covers are necessary and buttons can be purchase as an optional accessory. Kobo sells optional buttons.
Covers aren't necessary. I've not used them for more than a decade. And a remote is not a replacement for buttons.
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No WE didn't. decide that at all. Covers are necessary and buttons can be purchase as an optional accessory. Kobo sells optional buttons.
Imho it might just officially support them, but there are tons of preferences.
Imho rubbery ones ftw .
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Covers aren't necessary. I've not used them for more than a decade. And a remote is not a replacement for buttons.
The remote has buttons. So it basically is a portable set of buttons. A cover helps protect the reader and it makes it easier to hold.
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No WE didn't. decide that at all. Covers are necessary and buttons can be purchase as an optional accessory. Kobo sells optional buttons.
In that case, we don't need any Kobo ereaders larger the 6", as external screens can be used.
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The remote has buttons. So it basically is a portable set of buttons. A cover helps protect the reader and it makes it easier to hold.
Covers are bulky, heavy, and make it cumbersome to hold. You don't need covers.
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Covers are bulky, heavy, and make it cumbersome to hold. You don't need covers.
The cover I have on my Libra 2 is not bulky, heavy, or cumbersome. It actually makes the Libra 2 easier to hold.
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The remote has buttons. So it basically is a portable set of buttons. A cover helps protect the reader and it makes it easier to hold.
The buttons on the Libra make it easier to hold and reduce screen wear and tear. A remote isn’t a replacement as it costs more than the added cost of buttons to the device design and introduces multiple battery drains which don’t exist with built in buttons.

Since you already listed making the device easier to hold as a worthy benefit you’re only contradicting yourself if you say they aren’t necessary.

A cover adds weight and bulk to a device that has shed both in every iteration within a production line. Making them optional at best. Bordering on purely cosmetic.
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The cover I have on my Libra 2 is not bulky, heavy, or cumbersome. It actually makes the Libra 2 easier to hold.
Sorry, you are wrong.

Since the weight is >0, it is heavy. Since the cover size >0, it is bulky. Heavy + bulky = cumbersome.
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The buttons on the Libra make it easier to hold and reduce screen wear and tear. A remote isn’t a replacement as it costs more than the added cost of buttons to the device design and introduces multiple battery drains which don’t exist with built in buttons.

Since you already listed making the device easier to hold as a worthy benefit you’re only contradicting yourself if you say they aren’t necessary.

A cover adds weight and bulk to a device that has shed both in every iteration within a production line. Making them optional at best. Bordering on purely cosmetic.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard about a Reader. The buttons do not reduce wear and tear on the screen. And the buttons do not make the Libra 2 easier to hold.

The Libra H2O has terribly place buttons. The buttons actually made the H2O harder to hold because they buttons get in the way.
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Sorry, you are wrong.

Since the weight is >0, it is heavy. Since the cover size >0, it is bulky. Heavy + bulky = cumbersome.
In that case, your Reader is even more bulky and more cumbersome.

I don't find the case to be bulky or cumbersome at all.
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard about a Reader. The buttons do not reduce wear and tear on the screen. And the buttons do not make the Libra 2 easier to hold.

The Libra H2O has terribly place buttons. The buttons actually made the H2O harder to hold because they buttons get in the way.
Imho some persons might just have a terrible feeling having to costantly tip a panel to actuate the turn page. Imho also the responsiveness sometimes might not be the same, e.g. if the spot isn't perfect clean. That's why the buttons - imho.

Ps: the cover on the Color Note has only the front panel, so lighter than a fully cover; also within the pins it adds the features to wake-up the device just by opening it.
*I wouldn't like the feel of stealing from Pocketbook: I guess manufacturing engeeners already can see by themselves from others' ideas.

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