Dealing with Kindle ebooks in calibre

[xyzzy_foo]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But depending on your settings for DeDRM, you may never see that meta content line as DeDRM can be set to auto-strip it out. It's part of the Remove watermarks option.

That checkmark had been broken for a long time and was recently fixed. When you turn off the checkmark, the KF8 (AZW3) watermark remains as originally intended.

[Chocky]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would just give up on those authors you read who only publish at Amazon. By continuing to buy from Amazon, you feed into their ecosystem which is not a good thing to do.

I did this and they said that it's due to their contract. Evidently if they sell through other providers they can't use Kindle Unlimited, this pays them per page read.

Sad really as I really liked their books, I but can't carry on with their newer books.

I like my Kobo and there is no way I'm buying a Kindle with this sort of draconian policy.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Chocky

I did this and they said that it's due to their contract. Evidently if they sell through other providers they can't use Kindle Unlimited, this pays them per page read.

Sad really as I really liked their books, I but can't carry on with their newer books.

I like my Kobo and there is no way I'm buying a Kindle with this sort of draconian policy.

Paid by pages read on KU vs paid per book on all platforms? Do the really thing they are coming out ahead?
Is there work so poor that being paid for 1 chapters pages (and the rest is abandoned) by many or a full book because it is worth reading by loyal readers?
(Not a KU customer. I have bought hundreds of Kindle books and converted to my current device until they put up a higher wall. Those authors can no longer have a chance to get a sale from me because they think KU makes them MORE )

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by theducks

Paid by pages read on KU vs paid per book on all platforms? Do the really thing they are coming out ahead?
Is there work so poor that being paid for 1 chapters pages (and the rest is abandoned) by many or a full book because it is worth reading by loyal readers?
(Not a KU customer. I have bought hundreds of Kindle books and converted to my current device until they put up a higher wall. Those authors can no longer have a chance to get a sale from me because they think KU makes them MORE )

It's probably not because their work is poor, but because there are tens of thousands of authors just like them competing for readers' attention. More readers will try a totally unknown author in KU than are willing to pay full price for their book.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by xyzzy_foo

However, that is probably not a significant change. As I have shown, Adobe ADEPT's changes to OPF and XHTML are more extensive and irreversible.

It would be a lot easier to see if you could provide us with a diff of the original OPF vs the changed OPF. It's not that easy to compare the wto with graphics when the text is all bunched together like it is.

And no graphic images of the text please.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by xyzzy_foo

That checkmark had been broken for a long time and was recently fixed. When you turn off the checkmark, the KF8 (AZW3) watermark remains as originally intended.

The only thing I don't know is if the KFX watermark is removed. Do you know if this is so?

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

It's probably not because their work is poor, but because there are tens of thousands of authors just like them competing for readers' attention. More readers will try a totally unknown author in KU than are willing to pay full price for their book.

But that is what 'look inside' is about. That is the online equivalent of pick up a book and flip pages. So is Big A is paying for customers misusing KU to do a look inside , or why? (I suspect it is misuse of KU)

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by theducks

Paid by pages read on KU vs paid per book on all platforms? Do the really thing they are coming out ahead?
Is there work so poor that being paid for 1 chapters pages (and the rest is abandoned) by many or a full book because it is worth reading by loyal readers?
(Not a KU customer. I have bought hundreds of Kindle books and converted to my current device until they put up a higher wall. Those authors can no longer have a chance to get a sale from me because they think KU makes them MORE )

If the book is the first book in series, you may give the second a good if the first is not too bad. Whereas if you had to pay extra, you'd probably give up after the first book.

I do think a lot of KU eBooks get read because they cost no extra.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by theducks

But that is what 'look inside' is about. That is the online equivalent of pick up a book and flip pages. So is Big A is paying for customers misusing KU to do a look inside , or why? (I suspect it is misuse of KU)

There are still too many authors and too many books, and not enough buyers for all of them. People usually have limited budgets for books; they might read far more books with a subscription-based model than they'd be willing to individually purchase.

The number of self-published authors in KU is pretty staggering. There are a lot more of them than there ever was with traditional publishing.

[Desertway]

Originally Posted by theducks

But that is what 'look inside' is about. That is the online equivalent of pick up a book and flip pages. So is Big A is paying for customers misusing KU to do a look inside , or why? (I suspect it is misuse of KU)

I know a lot of people who use KU who wouldn't have a clue how to "misuse" it. They just happen to love many KU authors and blow through series after series of these favorite authors. It just works for how they read, and they feel no need to buy and own books.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Desertway

I know a lot of people who use KU who wouldn't have a clue how to "misuse" it. They just happen to love many KU authors and blow through series after series of these favorite authors. It just works for how they read, and they feel no need to buy and own books.

By misuse. I did not imply deliberately. My 'browse example is what I suspect runs the numbers up. KU might be a way for a NEW indy to get their foot in the door.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by theducks

By misuse. I did not imply deliberately. My 'browse example is what I suspect runs the numbers up. KU might be a way for a NEW indy to get their foot in the door.

An example of an author on KU who made it big is Hugh Howey. He published Wool on KU.

[xyzzy_foo]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It would be a lot easier to see if you could provide us with a diff of the original OPF vs the changed OPF. It's not that easy to compare the wto with graphics when the text is all bunched together like it is.

And no graphic images of the text please.

Mergely - Original OPF vs. Adobe ADEPT OPF

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by xyzzy_foo

Mergely - Original OPF vs. Adobe ADEPT OPF

I can believe Adobe Adept DRM could change the order of some items, and change some of the declarations at the top of the OPF.

I do not believe it would have changed the title of the book from
Japan Through the Lens of the Tokyo Olympics
to
Japan Through the Lens of the Tokyo Olympics Open Access

nor the publisher from
Routledge Taylor & Francis Group
to
Taylor and Francis

Although your examples are very similar books, I do not beleive they are the exact same edition, so so it's impossible to tell which changes were made just by the Adobe Adept DRM scheme.

[shalym]

I want to report an interesting result on my Oasis 2. It was on 5.16.2.1.1 and I was unable to clean books that had been downloaded to it. Last weekend I decided to try to jailbreak it and try downgrading to 5.16.2.1. Unfortunately, I was still unable to remove DRM from books downloaded to the device after doing this.

Because I had blocked upgrades on the device, it was still on 5.16.2.1 today. I was reading the Amazon and DRM Changes thread this morning, and JSWolf said the following:

My guess is that if your Kindle is infected with the new DRM, after you jailbreak, you may have to downgrade the firmware in order to remove the infection.

And supposedly, if you reset your Kindle, you get may get rid of the infection until the next time Amazon uploads it.

I responded with the unfortunate results of my experiment from last weekend, and decided that I would try doing a factory reset on the device to see if that worked.

It did.

I did a full reset, filled the Kindle so that there is only 70 MB free, then registered it, and downloaded a book that I hadn't been able to clean before, and I am now able to.

Note that at this point I haven't yet re-applied the jailbreak. When I connected the Kindle back to my PC after registering and downloading the book from Amazon, there was a .bin.partial file that showed up on the device. I deleted it.

So there *is* hope for those on 5.16.2.1.1

I can't guarantee that it will work for other firmwares, but it certainly did for this one.

Shari