Amazon discontinuing support for older Kindles in May

[Josieb1]

[QUOTE=JSWolf;4578249]I don't think anyone will risk having a brick by deregistering. I'm not going to try it.[/QUOTE

I have a PW1. I’m in the process of sending all my books to my old kindle, just so I can put them on my pc as a last back up, after 500 my storage was running low so I reset my kindle to get rid of them quickly, I had to reregister it and it was fine. Next time I will try and see what I can do before I register it.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I follow some independent authors and a lot don't want to go DRM free as they are paranoid about pirating

If an author's books are in KU and Amazon finds them on a pirate site, they can and will drop the author's account since your books are available outside of Amazon and KU. One author I know of lost close to 6 months of payments until Amazon in the goodness of Jeff Bezos's heart decided to reinstate their account.

Edit: She was reimbursed about 60% of what her accumulated royalties so still a kick in the financials.

[davedeacon]

Originally Posted by texasnightowl

I wrongly assumed I'd have an option to save the chat. I didn't.

Go to Your account/manage your data/request your data/Customer support communication/submit request:

"This file contains information related to communications that you have had with Amazon Customer Service agents, including recordings of calls, transcriptions of chats and email interactions and the date and time of these interactions. In addition, if you’ve communicated with Marketplace Sellers using email, information about those interactions will also be included. Any retained attachments to emails will be included."

[halfgone]

I just purchased a PW 5th gen about 2mos ago after my Kindle KB cracked a screen (I did replace it, but I wanted a little extra insurance). I even paid $20 to remove ads. I'm pretty upset about this.

I just used the Satsuoni method to remove DRM on the most recent version of K4PC (2.8.3) and it was effective. I did this on books that I had purchased last week. Not nearly as elegant as just dragging them over from my kindle though. What I'm most bummed about is that I don't think my kindle and my Kindle app on my phone will sync anymore. It was nice being able to pickup my reading on either device.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I have a PW1. I’m in the process of sending all my books to my old kindle, just so I can put them on my pc as a last back up, after 500 my storage was running low so I reset my kindle to get rid of them quickly, I had to reregister it and it was fine. Next time I will try and see what I can do before I register it.

I downloaded everything when D&T was going to be removed. But I'll go thought the list of Kindle eBooks and download anything that's since been updated.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by halfgone

I just purchased a PW 5th gen about 2mos ago after my Kindle KB cracked a screen (I did replace it, but I wanted a little extra insurance). I even paid $20 to remove ads. I'm pretty upset about this.

I just used the Satsuoni method to remove DRM on the most recent version of K4PC (2.8.3) and it was effective. I did this on books that I had purchased last week. Not nearly as elegant as just dragging them over from my kindle though. What I'm most bummed about is that I don't think my kindle and my Kindle app on my phone will sync anymore. It was nice being able to pickup my reading on either device.

The latest version of K4PC is v2.8.3 (70995).

[latepaul]

Something like this has been on the cards for a while. That's why I stopped buying at Amazon (mostly) more than a year ago. TBH I have slipped and bought a few that aren't available elsewhere but mostly I buy from epub stores and convert.

I also made sure all my Kindles are jailbroken and have Koreader installed. I just need to remember not to factory reset any of them.

But the main thing to remember is that whatever source you get your ebooks from, if you choose to de-DRM them, then do it as soon as you acquire them. It's much easier to do them one at a time than scurry to do it on a big backlog when something like this comes down the pike.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by jhowell

Reported on Reddit, a user in Australia received this email from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/help/kindle/devicedeprecation

So this "kills" most of my remaining Kindles. The only one I'll have left is my Voyage (unless they forgot to put that in the list).

Adios Amazon.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by odamizu

I've not yet received anything from Amazon regarding my K5. I wonder if this will be a gradual roll-out or if all pre-2013 devices will be hit worldwide on May 20.

I haven't received an email yet either, but I have no reason to doubt it will happen in the U.S. as well.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by issybird

My bottom line which I suspect puts me at odds with most posters here, is that these are ancient gadgets! No device lasts forever. And I can't imagine that many valued Amazon customers still read on these. The specs stink and the batteries are moribund. Heavy kindle book buyers moved on long ago, even if only to their phones.

I like my no-touch (4 and 5) Kindles the Kindle 3 keyboard, but I haven't done much with Kindles in a long time. "Ancient" doesn't bother me. I never did have to have the newest in electronic gadgets.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

The thing is, no one bothers with scanning or screen capturing these days. The vast majority of pirated books are "liberated" using the deDRM tools. As the revenue from their exclusive content and KU is important to Amazon, they want to stop this practice.

Well, it works for me. They've successfully stopped my practice of buying books from them (although it's pretty much been that way for a few years now). I want the freedom to move my book (I bought) to whatever device I want to use. That's not pirating.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by rcentros

Well, it works for me. They've successfully stopped my practice of buying books from them (although it's pretty much been that way for a few years now). I want the freedom to move my book (I bought) to whatever device I want to use. That's not pirating.

Of course not, and no one is saying it is. I also disinfect every ebook I buy. But Amazon doesn't want us to mess with their DRM, because the folks who upload Kindle content to file sharing sites use the same tools we use.

Personally I don't buy much from Amazon either these days.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The latest version of K4PC is v2.8.70995.

Minor nit. If you look at the About Kindle in the help menu, it shows the version as 2.8.3 with the build number as 70995). The installer downloads as KindleForPC-installer-2.8.70995.exe

See attached image.

[Yapyap]

No email for me yet for my Paperwhite (PW1 / Kindle 5th generation / whatever one calls it; the 2012 one, the first Paperwhite released).

I actually wonder how they’re handling this for e.g. European (or other market) customers that don’t have their own Amazon storefronts?

I buy my ebooks (well, I don’t do that lately, but the Amazon store that allows me to buy ebooks) on Amazon.com, but for buying an actual new Kindle device, if I wanted to do so, I don’t think I even could do that on Amazon.com - they used to have quite well-hidden pages for “international Kindles” but I can’t find any now that would even ship to Estonia.

If I wanted to buy a new Kindle, I’d have to do it via a European Amazon - preferably Amazon.de as that seems to be the most straightforward to deal with here … so where would that leave people like me with the discount codes and credit towards books, I wonder?

(It’s a moot point in practice as, even if I really liked Amazon and its business practices, which I don’t really care for much these days, I like buttons and they’re not making e-readers with buttons any more, so… yeah. Even if the jade metallic Paperwhite SE does look nice, admittedly. But in theory, they’d want me to buy a new one, so I’m currently just curious how it’d have to work.)

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Yapyap

I actually wonder how they’re handling this for e.g. European (or other market) customers that don’t have their own Amazon storefronts?

There is recently an Amazon Ireland, which sells paper books but not ebooks. It's still Amazon UK for that in Ireland. That's also where most of the Kindles were bought, inc a Paperwhite 1 and a Kindle Keyboard.
Later I got a Kindle DXG in an international sale on Amazon US but it was always on Amazon UK.

Briefly the Keyboard was re-registered in the USA, but then Amazon killed non-domestic US addresses (at least that's what they claimed). It was registered then a 3rd time, but to UK Amazon with Irish address.

Emails have been received at three accounts in Ireland for the DXG, K3/Keyboard and Paperwhite 1. Similar derisory upgrade offer and otherwise same text as USA.

For a while you could switch to Amazon US for Digital content in Ireland, but it seemed to be purely US$ billing as actual content and price was the same as if logged in to UK, not the same as a USA customer, or not logged in, thus a title available in USA and not in UK was still not available.

So this is global. Offers may vary by local market.