[Plugin] PunctuationSmarten Sigil plugin - Page 12

DiapDealer · 03-05-2026, 12:01 PM

Ok. So to be clear... you can browse to the file, you can select the file, and it enters the path into the text box with no problem. The issue arises only after you try to run the plugin at which point it hangs. Than canceling the plugin show the process crashing.

If that's the case, that's even odder. I can't see how that would differ at all from manually editing the .json preferences.

If the gui process doesn't have permissions to overwrite the plugin preferences json in ~/.local/sigil-ebook/sigil, then I would expect any gui plugin that saved preferences to fail miserably. They all write/overwrite things there. Have you tried other plugins of mine to verify?

carmenchu · 03-05-2026, 01:28 PM

That's it: the plugin reports 'running', and offers to chose a file, but once the path is selected, the plugin gets frozen, and after aborting, no changes to the path are reflected in the .json file, However, the file itself appears as updated. but it doesn't reflect any change related to the 'right click'--that I can see.
A short trial of Tag-Mechanic has shown no issues. ¿¿??

DiapDealer · 03-05-2026, 01:37 PM

Can you see if the permissions on the PunctuationSmarten preferences json match the permissions on the one for TagMechanic?

DiapDealer · 03-05-2026, 03:58 PM

Can you also verify that you're using the bundled Python for the plugin interpreter? That box will uncheck if you use a non-AppImage version of Sigil. It will stay unchecked when run with the AppImage until you check it again. The AppImage will happily try to use the system Python with that box unchecked.

There are two lines of code in v0.5.990 of the plugin that will not work with versions of Python older than 3.6. I would expect different error messages, but I'd still like to be certain.

If your system version of Python is newer than Python3.6, then this won't matter.

carmenchu · 03-05-2026, 04:51 PM

The answer is yes to both questions. At least, as far as can be seen by a complete tyro in re: Linux groups / permissions.

DiapDealer · 03-05-2026, 05:05 PM

I need to prepare a debug version that will help identify exactly where the code is falling down.

DiapDealer · Yesterday, 07:13 AM

In the meantime: have you tried deleting the preferences folder for PunctuationSmarten and letting the plugin recreate it (and the json) on the first run?

carmenchu · Yesterday, 12:59 PM

DiapDealer, I grovel! The trouble was the 'open window' hiding behind the plugin window on losing focus--the 'freezing' effect, simply the plugin waiting for confirmation from the hidden window. Once I caught the flicker and moved the guilty window to stay in sight, everything works per schedule.
Exceedingly sorry to have raised so much causeless worry!!

DiapDealer · Yesterday, 01:56 PM

No worries! I'm just glad it's working. I was honestly running out of ideas!

I need to make some final changes to show the results in the plugin's own window rather than the Plugin Runner details window. That way, I can set the plugin to autoclose and the PluginRunner Window won't ever be in the way. Right now it's the only way what has been changed can be easily seen (short of creating a checkpoint before running the plugin).

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03-05-2026, 12:01 PM	#166
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Ok. So to be clear... you can browse to the file, you can select the file, and it enters the path into the text box with no problem. The issue arises only after you try to run the plugin at which point it hangs. Than canceling the plugin show the process crashing. If that's the case, that's even odder. I can't see how that would differ at all from manually editing the .json preferences. If the gui process doesn't have permissions to overwrite the plugin preferences json in ~/.local/sigil-ebook/sigil, then I would expect any gui plugin that saved preferences to fail miserably. They all write/overwrite things there. Have you tried other plugins of mine to verify?

03-05-2026, 01:28 PM	#167
carmenchu Addict Posts: 208 Karma: 266070 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Spain Device: Win10,Win11,Ubuntu,PockbookLux44	That's it: the plugin reports 'running', and offers to chose a file, but once the path is selected, the plugin gets frozen, and after aborting, no changes to the path are reflected in the .json file, However, the file itself appears as updated. but it doesn't reflect any change related to the 'right click'--that I can see. A short trial of Tag-Mechanic has shown no issues. ¿¿??

03-05-2026, 01:37 PM	#168
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Can you see if the permissions on the PunctuationSmarten preferences json match the permissions on the one for TagMechanic?

03-05-2026, 03:58 PM	#169
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Can you also verify that you're using the bundled Python for the plugin interpreter? That box will uncheck if you use a non-AppImage version of Sigil. It will stay unchecked when run with the AppImage until you check it again. The AppImage will happily try to use the system Python with that box unchecked. There are two lines of code in v0.5.990 of the plugin that will not work with versions of Python older than 3.6. I would expect different error messages, but I'd still like to be certain. If your system version of Python is newer than Python3.6, then this won't matter.

03-05-2026, 04:51 PM	#170
carmenchu Addict Posts: 208 Karma: 266070 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Spain Device: Win10,Win11,Ubuntu,PockbookLux44	The answer is yes to both questions. At least, as far as can be seen by a complete tyro in re: Linux groups / permissions.

03-05-2026, 05:05 PM	#171
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I need to prepare a debug version that will help identify exactly where the code is falling down.

Yesterday, 07:13 AM	#172
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	In the meantime: have you tried deleting the preferences folder for PunctuationSmarten and letting the plugin recreate it (and the json) on the first run?

Yesterday, 12:59 PM	#173
carmenchu Addict Posts: 208 Karma: 266070 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Spain Device: Win10,Win11,Ubuntu,PockbookLux44	DiapDealer, I grovel! The trouble was the 'open window' hiding behind the plugin window on losing focus--the 'freezing' effect, simply the plugin waiting for confirmation from the hidden window. Once I caught the flicker and moved the guilty window to stay in sight, everything works per schedule. Exceedingly sorry to have raised so much causeless worry!!

Yesterday, 01:56 PM	#174
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 29,161 Karma: 211348980 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	No worries! I'm just glad it's working. I was honestly running out of ideas! I need to make some final changes to show the results in the plugin's own window rather than the Plugin Runner details window. That way, I can set the plugin to autoclose and the PluginRunner Window won't ever be in the way. Right now it's the only way what has been changed can be easily seen (short of creating a checkpoint before running the plugin).