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The change was back when they released the 4th gen in 2014. A whole lot of people have never really paid attention to it.
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The problem is that the a 7" eInk screen is too small for most PDF.
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I'd also look for tablets that are in more of a square ratio, not wide like 16:9. When reading in portrait mode, 4:3 is preferable. |
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I tried with an expensive Kindle DX back in 2010, and it wasn't very good at PDFs - you either squinted at the small print (at 200 dpi) in portrait mode, or you went into landscape mode and had to pan the pages. 15 years later, the e-ink picture is not much better. Perhaps you can get an expensive 300 dpi 10+ inch device, but the choice is still the same - small print or pan around. Personally I gave up on e-ink for full-page PDFs/comics, and got myself a 14" TCL Nxtpaper (as wisely advised here, thank you). For regular fiction a 7" BW e-ink Kobo Libra2 is my favorite. |
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(The e-ink would be better for the eyes). But if you want to give it a look: https://asgeyehospital.com/blog/whic...es-oled-or-lcd https://thetradable.com/opinions/ole...er-on-the-eyes I mean, if you want to search for second hands, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsun...y_Tab_S_series Ps: battery expectations are different too, from e-ink to LCD, OLEDs... Last edited by nana77; 12-03-2025 at 04:01 AM. |
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The PDF format was created for printing, not for reading on handheld devices. Reading them on small screens (anything less than 12" qualifies as small in this sense) is and always will be a lousy experience, IMO. Yes, some people do it, but I doubt even they find it all that pleasant.
Personally I'd use a tablet for PDF. |
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I sense that the Portable referred to the ability to view the document on another desktop computer without the original app installed (or even all the fonts present); not the ability to view it on a handheld device.
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Yeah. I don't think there were too many handheld devices in existence back then (if any).
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Portable in PDF means the same everywhere. It is designed for print, but "portable" to any system with WYSIWYG.
In the 1950s most portable TVs and tape recorders only ran on mains. A 1981 portable computer, 10.7kg and mains only. https://collection.sciencemuseumgrou...table-computer A 1955 portable tape recorder, 29kg and mains only. https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/emi_po...der_tr50b.html Used by BBC. Portable on PDF doesn't mean for ereaders, portable devices, nor is a PDF an ebook. It's an electronic document that will match the printed one and portable in the sense of moving to a different system. For years the MS Word for Windows documents were NOT portable as the exact formatting depended on the printer selected! Also by default the fonts were not included. A PDF by default included the fonts. The PDF was released in 1993 and based on Postscript (1992). There were electronic book formats and portable devices using mini CD from 1991. There were portable gadgets you could read on by mid 1980s. PDAs were the first usable portable devices for reading, (Palm, Newton, Windows CE) and the first true ebook ereader you'd recognise, using the precursor to epub2 was in 1998. It had a modem so no PC needed. LCD obviously. Sony eink was 2005 and Kindle 2007. Neither used epub, though Sony did adopt it later. PDF has never ever been good for portable devices, though PalmOS, Windows CE and Symbian had viewers. You had to pan and zoom lots. Really a 13+ inch tablet is the minimum for PDFs. I've had two eink 10.3″ and not good enough. The 10.9″ Nxtpaper 11 isn't quite good enough, but the 14.25″ Nxtpaper 14 is. The 1920 x 1080 in landscape only just does Letter and not good enough for A4. The 1600 x 1200 and 1920 x 1200 are only just good enough for A4. Really for desktop you need QHD minimum and ideally 4K on a display just big enough (23″ or more) to be able to turn off Retina/HiDPI mode. Last edited by Quoth; 12-03-2025 at 01:00 PM. |
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