the unofficial Bookeen Blog - Page 6

Jellby · 05-10-2009, 11:39 AM

Yes, it started with "The new folder support looks awful"

It seems the pictures referred to are just taken with 5 files per screen. I guess it will be possible to have 10 or 20 files per screen with the new firmware too.

Snuffi · 05-11-2009, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Abelturd

Sorry GeoffC for pushing your thread off topic, but look how it's thriving. Doesn't it fill you with proud parental joy?

Thanks everyone for explanation. It does make sense now, although the aftertaste of weirdness still remains.

It makes sense for Bookeen as far as "seeing a way to rake in a lot of cash fast" is concerned. I am not opposed to them making a different Cybook for Weltbild and put in all the stuff Weltbild deems necessary. But they should have labelled it differently. Having two devices which are looking the same but with different formats supported is the worst idea ever and none of their customers will thank them for that. What's so hard about changing the name (at least slightly) when realeasing it with a new FW which doesn't do mobi anymore (aside from the fact that right now it doesn't do html and txt either, according to what I read on other threads).

As far as the blog is concerned: That would have been a perfect place to tell customers what is happening. No mention there that they would do 2 different FWs, all they said is that ePub support was coming which would lead the average user astray as I am sure not too many people out there have heard about the "single DRM-only policy" Amazon is enforcing. So most people reading the blog would think they can read ePub books they buy in a store on the Cybook which will never be the case (the fact that the Weltbild devices don't have mobi-DRM seems to prove that it will be the same the other way around for existing users).

I wonder why they still have that blog as they have still to post one useful information on it...

Abelturd · 05-11-2009, 10:55 AM

Aaaaall riiiight. So only now I get it.
The Weltbild cybook is like a special brand *SPECIFICALLY* for the german market, because german publishers are stubborn and want to publish only drmed epub ebooks.
And the original fw still can be totally different from the weltbild fw, with mobi support and all.
Yeah, I 100% agree that it should be labeled or designated differently from cybook gen3, so that it wouldn't come to confusion. Because it got me really confused.

GeoffC · 05-11-2009, 11:20 AM

confusius reigns until enlightenment from Bookeen (pity they don't live up to their name ... books & keen ) .... :scrapestongueoffcheekofmouth:

tompe · 05-11-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abelturd

Aaaaall riiiight. So only now I get it.
The Weltbild cybook is like a special brand *SPECIFICALLY* for the german market, because german publishers are stubborn and want to publish only drmed epub ebooks.
And the original fw still can be totally different from the weltbild fw, with mobi support and all.
Yeah, I 100% agree that it should be labeled or designated differently from cybook gen3, so that it wouldn't come to confusion. Because it got me really confused.

But if they releay two different firmwares for old Cybook then it would have been more confusing to have a different brand also.

I look forward to having ePub support and I hope MobiPocket will die as a format since it is technically inferior compared to ePub.

GeoffC · 05-11-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

But if they releay two different firmwares for old Cybook then it would have been more confusing to have a different brand also.

I look forward to having ePub support and I hope MobiPocket will die as a format since it is technically inferior compared to ePub.

throws all my books in the bin in anticipation .....

tompe · 05-11-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

throws all my books in the bin in anticipation .....

I hope that DRM wil die in the process also...

GeoffC · 05-11-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

I hope that DRM wil die in the process also...

a painful death on the rack would be too good for it ....

HarryT · 05-11-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

I look forward to having ePub support and I hope MobiPocket will die as a format since it is technically inferior compared to ePub.

Not me. I don't want to lose dictionary support, and that's something that ePub doesn't have! Yes, you're right of course that ePub is hugely better than Mobi in terms of its capabilities, but Mobi is "good enough" for most novels.

tompe · 05-11-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Not me. I don't want to lose dictionary support, and that's something that ePub doesn't have! Yes, you're right of course that ePub is hugely better than Mobi in terms of its capabilities, but Mobi is "good enough" for most novels.

I have started to use the MobiPocket dictionary lookup on my phone and it is actually as fast as looking up a word using my Cybook and it also works for paper books. So I can live without dictionary lookup.

HarryT · 05-11-2009, 12:17 PM

That's a very good idea! I'll install my Chambers dictionary on my HTC Touch Smartphone and see how well it works on there.

GeoffC · 05-11-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Not me. I don't want to lose dictionary support, and that's something that ePub doesn't have! Yes, you're right of course that ePub is hugely better than Mobi in terms of its capabilities, but Mobi is "good enough" for most novels.

surely the dictionary support on epub is not that unsurmountable ?

HarryT · 05-11-2009, 01:01 PM

Mobi defines a specific "dictionary format" (which is how the Gen3 automatically recognises what is a dictionary and what isn't). I do not believe that ePub has any such specification for a dictionary.

Abelturd · 05-11-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Not me. I don't want to lose dictionary support, and that's something that ePub doesn't have! Yes, you're right of course that ePub is hugely better than Mobi in terms of its capabilities, but Mobi is "good enough" for most novels.

I agree with Harry. Who are we kidding, how complicated can formatting on a 6" screen get? On a screen that small any elaborate formatting is counterproductive. The big screens though, like in case of Kindle DX, that's a whole different story.
I wouldn't really miss the dictionary support in it's present form. I so wish bookeen would impove it somehow (faster navigation, dedicated button). At the moment I'm using mobipocket dictionaries on my ipaq as a substitute for lookup function on cybook. It works really well, I installed happy tapping keyboard, so I can use my fingers instead of stilus. I set the backlight to turn off after 10 secs and the power to be turned off after 5 minutes, so I don't have to turn the ipaq on and off again so often while the power drain stays small.

Abelturd · 05-11-2009, 05:01 PM

A funny idea occured to me, that none of this is actually off topic if you come to think of this thread as a surrogate for the official bookeen's blog. It's just a natural and direct consequence of bookeen giving us silent treatment. All this stuff, like what's going on with weltbild and the possibility of two fw versions should be posted on bookeens blog.
GeoffC, you should rename the thread Unofficial or Hearsay Bookeen Blog.

People when they want to find out what's happening with bookeen come for information to MobileRead anyway.

05-11-2009, 10:55 AM	#78
Abelturd Little Fuzzy Soldier Posts: 580 Karma: 5711 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nowhere in particular. Device: cybook gen3, htc hero, ipaq 214	Aaaaall riiiight. So only now I get it. The Weltbild cybook is like a special brand SPECIFICALLY for the german market, because german publishers are stubborn and want to publish only drmed epub ebooks. And the original fw still can be totally different from the weltbild fw, with mobi support and all. Yeah, I 100% agree that it should be labeled or designated differently from cybook gen3, so that it wouldn't come to confusion. Because it got me really confused. Last edited by Abelturd; 05-11-2009 at 11:00 AM.

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05-10-2009, 11:39 AM	#76
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,549 Karma: 19500001 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	Yes, it started with "The new folder support looks awful" It seems the pictures referred to are just taken with 5 files per screen. I guess it will be possible to have 10 or 20 files per screen with the new firmware too.

05-11-2009, 11:20 AM	#79
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	confusius reigns until enlightenment from Bookeen (pity they don't live up to their name ... books & keen ) .... :scrapestongueoffcheekofmouth:

05-11-2009, 12:17 PM	#86
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That's a very good idea! I'll install my Chambers dictionary on my HTC Touch Smartphone and see how well it works on there.

05-11-2009, 01:01 PM	#88
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Mobi defines a specific "dictionary format" (which is how the Gen3 automatically recognises what is a dictionary and what isn't). I do not believe that ePub has any such specification for a dictionary.

05-11-2009, 05:01 PM	#90
Abelturd Little Fuzzy Soldier Posts: 580 Karma: 5711 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nowhere in particular. Device: cybook gen3, htc hero, ipaq 214	A funny idea occured to me, that none of this is actually off topic if you come to think of this thread as a surrogate for the official bookeen's blog. It's just a natural and direct consequence of bookeen giving us silent treatment. All this stuff, like what's going on with weltbild and the possibility of two fw versions should be posted on bookeens blog. GeoffC, you should rename the thread Unofficial or Hearsay Bookeen Blog. People when they want to find out what's happening with bookeen come for information to MobileRead anyway.