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| Provocateur            Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS | 
				
				Princeton Kindle DX Pilot Program
			 
			
			http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2009/05/08/23660/ Some interesting excerpts: Quote: 
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|  05-10-2009, 05:42 AM | #2 | 
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			they will just add another $2,000 on to the fees    | 
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|  05-10-2009, 06:36 AM | #3 | |
| Provocateur            Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS | 
			
			More details on the program: http://www.princeton.edu/ereaderpilot Quote: 
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|  05-10-2009, 12:55 PM | #4 | 
| Banned            Posts: 1,767 Karma: 2520493 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Nexus 7, jetBook-Lite, jetBook mini, Toshiba Thrive, JETBOOK COLOR | 
			
			I remember Sony had the similar project and donated several ereader to school libraries
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|  05-10-2009, 01:21 PM | #5 | 
| Guru            Posts: 714 Karma: 2003751 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			To search? If PDF is not made as a collection of scanned images (and these PDF's obviously won't be) search function works just fine on Adobe Acrobat Reader for Windows. I use it constantly at work, even when I have a printed version of the document.
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|  05-10-2009, 03:25 PM | #6 | 
| reader            Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			  Search within the PDF you are currently reading will work on the Kindle DX, but one of the big selling points of the Kindle is "all content" search and this won't include PDFs (except its metadata, e.g. the author and title).
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|  05-10-2009, 04:57 PM | #7 | |
| Guru            Posts: 714 Karma: 2003751 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo Glo HD | Quote: 
 The PDF search function is not a speed demon on a relatively decent desktop machine. On mobile hardware, even if it was possible to interface with Adobe software to handle PDF's, it is questionable how practical such an implementation would be. | |
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|  05-10-2009, 05:09 PM | #8 | 
| Provocateur            Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS | 
			
			I wasn't talking about the search actually; rather that you can't annotate inside PDFs (even real text ones) on the Kindle DX.
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|  05-10-2009, 05:55 PM | #9 | 
| reader            Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			  The way this works for MOBI and TXT is that the ebook is indexed as soon as it is copied to the device, and the "all content" search is based on this index.  The hard part for PDFs may be displaying snippets of context and a reliable location within the document.
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|  05-10-2009, 06:00 PM | #10 | 
| Provocateur            Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS | 
			
			The problem is the DX isn't indexing the PDFs, nor allowing notetaking, highlight, etc. in the associated metadata file.  Basically they haven't integrated PDFs into the Kindle software at all; they just slapped third-party PDF display ability onto it.
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|  05-10-2009, 09:12 PM | #11 | 
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			I find it dissapointing that the Kindle DX doesn't have: - Wacom touchscreen stylus input - WiFi - Unlocked 3G modem (for any worldwide carrier) - Bluetooth (for foldable full sized keyboard text input) - A kickstand on the back (to position it on the table while you type in text) If they had those features, this device would become absolutely priceless for education, work and anyone who is an enthusiast about commenting any text in real-time. Chatting, debating about all texts be there from books, textbooks, blogs, newspapers, anything. With those better input mechanisms you could really collaborate on the devices. I guess we'll have to look forward to the Pixel Qi 3Qi screen to be tablet mode compliant and come on much cheaper, full LCD color compatible tablet devices which will really come with all these features. | 
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|  05-10-2009, 09:52 PM | #12 | ||
| Guru            Posts: 714 Karma: 2003751 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo Glo HD | Quote: 
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 Off topic, considering that ebook reading devices do little between page turns, it baffles me why software on my Sony Reader is not taking the advantage of these "quiet" periods (re-pagination of the ebook to use exact page numbers, not approximation, for example). | ||
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|  05-10-2009, 10:13 PM | #13 | 
| reader            Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			  Yes, it is run in the background.  It can cause minor issues when it is running, but overall it works well.  The index can get large, I seem to remember about 30% of the total but I can't find the reference.
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|  05-10-2009, 10:47 PM | #14 | 
| Guru            Posts: 714 Karma: 2003751 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			There is a method to Amazon's "madness" when it comes to suspicious absence of the SD slot on Kindles, I guess.
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|  05-11-2009, 04:22 AM | #15 | 
| Provocateur            Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS | 
			
			My 928MB of books (about 1200) created 545MB of indexes.  I suspect some of those may be indexes for books I've deleted but generally each book takes up half as much space again for its index, so yeah about 1/3 of the availble 1.4GB of memory will be used for indexes and 2/3 for books.
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