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Old Today, 10:51 AM   #46
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Uploading a copyrighted book to a cloud storage is the only way I can have a usable offsite backup copy. So yeah, of course I do it.
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Without DRM removal and backups you don't really have what you paid for.
Except that I really DID get what I paid for.

I don't buy books until I'm ready to read them, so DRM is a non-factor in that regard. When I do buy them, I happily read them immediately with the app of where I bought them from on an Android tablet (or listen to it with a phone). I don't re-read, so there's no need for backups (or for storage until I get around to reading them). The price I pay for what I read/listen to is one that I find more than satisfactory for the one-time experience. Way cheaper than the price of a good meal for a much longer period of enjoyment. So I got exactly what I wanted, for exactly what I paid. I win.

The fact that "buying a book" used to mean something else to others in the past is of no consequence in my valuation of what I'm paying for today.

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Most of the books I read I bought years ago. I tend to read a book or two at the start of a series, and if I like them, I buy the rest of the series, or at least a few books to move along in the series. I have several partially read series that I go back and forth between, usually switching between series every book or two so I don't get tired of any one series too quickly.

So it's important to me to be able to remove DRM. Because by the time I get around to reading a purchased book, years could have elapsed and my eReader may have bitten the dust and been replaced. I may need to convert the books to a different format because of that. Which means DRM must not be present. So first thing after a book purchase, I strip the DRM and convert and save the book in the two major formats that I use - EPUB and AZW3. I know it is redundant to store them in both formats, but I do that anyway. Disk space is cheap, and eBooks are very small.
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The main cost is not the translator, but purchasing the rights to publish the book in that language.
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Absolutely. Same with having a human narration. You can't sell or give it* away without paying royalties, which may include up-front costs.

[* Translation, narrated or fully illustrated graphic novel using abridged text. Human or computer generated makes no difference]
Thanks, last question, promised; just I don't like to not finish a discourse.
My thought was if it wouldn't be nice if (relating to the thread) a site (oficial, something that users sees and has some reputation - and won't count AI votes, off course), can keep a count of requests for a translation. That's all.
Maybe in some years it may reach a point where a publisher, that knows its rights values it, and easily may choose some, maybe it can keep requests for translators, too; and maybe it can keep a count of books that users - again - would like to have on a digital copy, while there are none at the moment... This latter one might give some monies to someone, that - imho - perhalps it doesn't even needs to be too skilled, but has the time to do the job.
Finished; apologizes if it was to silly.
Ps: In the worsest it may look as a feature as having readers that might think them listened. (Sorry , pun not intended).
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The current publisher might not have rights for the target language market. You'd have to target publishers in that language market with a petition. Then it might be up to the author.

The publishing system is a bit broken.

Even the world English language market is artificially broken into regions where some publishers have secretly agreed not to compete. Common between some big USA and UK publishers.

See also region coding on DVDs, BD and games, where even when a publisher has world wide rights they want to chop up the markets to better exploit them. That is evil.
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The current publisher might not have rights for the target language market. You'd have to target publishers in that language market with a petition. Then it might be up to the author.

The publishing system is a bit broken.

Even the world English language market is artificially broken into regions where some publishers have secretly agreed not to compete. Common between some big USA and UK publishers.

See also region coding on DVDs, BD and games, where even when a publisher has world wide rights they want to chop up the markets to better exploit them. That is evil.
Tought: if a place (just as an example, like this: https://www.isfdb.org/) keeps a count, nobody has to go searching the publisher, is the opposite. An agent/publisher knows its job already, that's it - imho. Namely if it can afford it or not, etc.. no one would be called.
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I'm in the "meets my needs" group. With arthritis and nerve damage, the Kindle Oasis 3 is the perfect ereader for me, both ergonomics and weight (even my lighter Clara HD isn't as comfortable to hold). I spent a good decade using D&T, Calibre and the liberation tools. I got tired of it. Now I just want to buy or borrow, send wirelessly to device and read. That said, I also send all my books to my old K3 as a back up and a precaution.

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