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[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Count me among the "we".

Going by the support from various posters for their colour eInk devices, would you find it correct for someone to post "We love colour eInk. We need colour eInk. We want more colour eInk devices. We don't see any need for a 7" non-colour eInk."

Perhaps "some posters on MobileRead agree with me" would be more correct.

[JSWolf]

What we need is more choice for Kobo Readers. Some want color. Some don't. Some want a larger screen. Some don't. So what we need is a Libra 2 replacement to help give users more choice. We also need a better 8" and 10.3" BW Readers (with proper batteries). Also, an 8" color screen would give some what they want. Then we'd have enough choice for what users want.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What we need is more choice for Kobo Readers. Some want color. Some don't. Some want a larger screen. Some don't. So what we need is a Libra 2 replacement to help give users more choice. We also need a better 8" and 10.3" BW Readers (with proper batteries). Also, an 8" color screen would give some what they want. Then we'd have enough choice for what users want.

Some want buttons, some don't. Some want symmetric some don't. Some want 5" some don't. Some want a plastic substrate some don't. Some want a bigger battery some don't. Some want a thicker reader some don't, ...

[issybird]

Originally Posted by scegghy

Who knows?

We know that GoodeReader doesn't know. They make stuff up and when like the stopped clock they're right occasionally, it's because they stole it from a reputable source. So the rule of thumb is always to disbelieve them when they claim to be breaking a story.

I wish people wouldn't cite them as a source, link to them or click on links to them. It's not much, but cutting down on clicks would hurt them in the aggregate. At the least, if you're going to use them as a source, provide a copious enough quote so that people don't need to click to find out what they said.

[Cactus Chef]

Originally Posted by issybird

We know that GoodeReader doesn't know. They make stuff up and when like the stopped clock they're right occasionally, it's because they stole it from a reputable source. So the rule of thumb is always to disbelieve them when they claim to be breaking a story.

I wish people wouldn't cite them as a source, link to them or click on links to them. It's not much, but cutting down on clicks would hurt them in the aggregate. At the least, if you're going to use them as a source, provide a copious enough quote so that people don't need to click to find out what they said.

They occasionally work as a decent "amplification" outlet, provided they include the original source, and you ignore any of the speculative crap GER has added. I've posted a couple news articles in the past that I got alerted to from them, but I then dug through the article and got the original source to post directly from the horse's mouth.

[Sonnenfee]

Originally Posted by John F

Some want buttons, some don't. Some want symmetric some don't. Some want 5" some don't. Some want a plastic substrate some don't. Some want a bigger battery some don't. Some want a thicker reader some don't, ...

Some read JSWolf posts some don’t. I stopped doing it.
It's not worth the time to read or reply to his posts.

I would guess, if it’s true, either these are two new devices exclusively for the European market, Kobos with Tolino software which is planned (B for B-market = Europe ) or what would be brilliant a Kobo Clara Colour and a Clara BW with (side) buttons. The addition of the letter B could stand for buttons.

[Quoth]

Why bother with expense of FCC if it's only for Europe?

[Sonnenfee]

In my opinion, because Kobo as the manufacturer of the devices, is based in Canada.

[nana77]

May it be that is a device within a native implementation for Instapaper, perhalps?

In partnership with Instapaper, Kobo is working diligently to integrate this feature into its e-readers, to launch it by the end of summer 2025.

https://goodereader.com/blog/kobo-er...heir-e-readers

[DNSB]

For what it may be worth, I do not believe the new B variants will have buttons. They will look and behave just like the original but with updated electronics and likely a larger battery (2000mAH to match the P365 is my favourite possibility).

As for the software for Europe? That is already being tested as the 5.10 firmware for the Libra Colour and the Clara Colour/BW to meet EU accessibility requirements. So far, it is not what I consider quite ready for general release though switching from QT5 to QT6 is likely the cause of many of the deficiencies.

As for FCC approval because Kobo is headquartered in Canada? For Canada, the CAN ICES-003/NMB-003 listing is the important one. The FCC listing is only necessary for devices that would be marketed in the US.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by nana77

May it be that is a device within a native implementation for Instapaper, perhalps?

https://goodereader.com/blog/kobo-er...heir-e-readers

Going by Kobo's announcements and the items on Instapaper's site, Instapaper will be available to all Kobo devices that supported Pocket as a firmware update. No need for a new device just to add Instapaper support. Oddly, for a BadeReader announcement, this one seems to be close to the facts.

[Lynx-lynx]

Is the FCC approval seen as an industry standard internationally?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lynx-lynx

Is the FCC approval seen as an industry standard internationally?

The FCC approval can help with getting approvals in some areas. OTOH, you have to realize that other parts of the world use different standards for RF emission, etc. Much like the differences between CSA and UL or C-UL listings.

That is one reason you see that alphabet soup of listings in the About page for a Kobo ereader.

To quote from one document I have around:

Although FCC certification is accepted in the United States, it isn't sufficient for selling a device in Canada. Canada has its own regulatory body and standards for electronics, meaning you will need to comply with these standards in order to market your device in Canada.

[Lynx-lynx]

Same in Australia, we have our own frameworks for all and sundry, and yet a lot of advertising material for products also bears that FCC approved info. At the very least it's minimum standards I suppose.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Lynx-lynx

Is the FCC approval seen as an industry standard internationally?

No, it's USA only.

Each regulatory authority has it's own. In the EU there are regulatory authorities for each nation, but harmonised standards passed in to law in each country. Domestic / retail things have CE approval (not just things with a radio) (IS in Ireland DIN in Germany etc). Commercial / Professional radios use ETSI.

Japan is stricter and different FM spectrum.


I never heard of FCC having any value in the UK or EU. A different set of standards. The USA uses a different system for terrestrial TV, different set of WiFi channels, different mains electricity, different channel spacing on cable, slightly different FM & AM systems (with different channel steps, FM premphasis), different spectrum allocations etc.