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Old 08-01-2025, 08:29 PM   #3016
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They very well could. Government institutions typically don't replace "obsolete" tech until it completely fails and sometimes not even then.
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Old 08-01-2025, 09:19 PM   #3017
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Old 08-02-2025, 01:58 AM   #3018
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I still say film even when I'm talking/ thinking about what I'm going to watch on a Friday/ Saturday night - hmm what film shall I watch tonight, even though I know it's on a DVD

Old habits are hard to break
Can't recall the links, but various times I'd heard or readed that the better way to conserve movies is done on films, as it requires a low temperature and might last centuries; otherwise for the ones that keeps archives and has to maintain the data on hard disk/ssd cells, that way is more prone to degradation, as them has to have an electric field maintained, and any time a backup is done, some degradation might occur (this was yet mentioned).
Several 4k "redeemings" are nowadays done from the old film too (and there are critics about the colour conversions, also).
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Old 08-02-2025, 02:35 AM   #3019
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Magnetic tapes (specifically linear tape-open) are also used for long-term data storage.
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Old 08-02-2025, 06:21 AM   #3020
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I got a funny feeling by governments saying we got to reduce the power off big tech, but all the do is force you to use a google or apple phone,sending that by a windows computer pfff.
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Old 08-02-2025, 09:50 PM   #3021
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Old 08-02-2025, 10:24 PM   #3022
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Old 08-02-2025, 10:33 PM   #3023
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I still say film even when I'm talking/ thinking about what I'm going to watch on a Friday/ Saturday night - hmm what film shall I watch tonight, even though I know it's on a DVD

Old habits are hard to break
In Estonian, the word for movie IS film. There's no other word. (Well, there's video, of course, but that doesn't mean the same thing).
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Old 08-03-2025, 12:21 AM   #3024
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Magnetic tapes (specifically linear tape-open) are also used for long-term data storage.
Concerning long-term storage: I wonder if something like Minidisc could be a form of long-term storage? The data on a Minidisc is semi-permanent, meaning that using a minidisc doesn't affect the data stored on it and everything is permanent unless you intentionally change it (the disc has to be heated to its Curie Point).
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Old 08-03-2025, 12:48 AM   #3025
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In Estonian, the word for movie IS film. There's no other word. (Well, there's video, of course, but that doesn't mean the same thing).
Sorry for a little OT if I may: have you ever seen something from Nicola Piovesan?
He's a italian filmaker ( https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4289460/?ref_=vp_close ) that lives in Estonia.
Some of his works are quite fun and imho within a nice peculiar taste (not all seems to be listed in there, anyway).
https://gameworldobserver.com/2021/0...odya-interview

What's not in list is this short (a parody, really; nothing porn or whatever): https://www.skepto.net/en/film/supersesso-70 , most of the troup are from Baltic Film and Media School.



IIRC his coworks are also in Smeriglia's channel, that are super super fun.
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Old 08-03-2025, 01:04 AM   #3026
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Sorry for a little OT if I may: have you ever seen something from Nicola Piovesan?
Never heard of him (which is not surprising, as I watch very few movies overall), but I'll look him up.
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Concerning long-term storage: I wonder if something like Minidisc could be a form of long-term storage? The data on a Minidisc is semi-permanent, meaning that using a minidisc doesn't affect the data stored on it and everything is permanent unless you intentionally change it (the disc has to be heated to its Curie Point).
Imho minidiscs are super-cool, I was serching about some time ago, but all the portable devices within that tech uses/used stilo batteries, which - imho again - it's not that reliable (won't think at rechargeable ones too). I was close to find one as for audiocar, as the ones that claims USB features offers mp3 support, and not many others formats that could be better, thought that it would had needed a second device as for to record them (so at the end I'd just found a genuine audiocar and plug the DAP within the wired aux).
But minidiscs are clean to organize, to keep, and offers a good quality in audio, iirc.

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Concerning long-term storage: I wonder if something like Minidisc could be a form of long-term storage? The data on a Minidisc is semi-permanent, meaning that using a minidisc doesn't affect the data stored on it and everything is permanent unless you intentionally change it (the disc has to be heated to its Curie Point).
M-DISCs are supposed to last 1000 years, that claim hasn't been proven in action yet. I somehow doubt we'll stick around long enough to find out.
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Imho minidiscs are super-cool, I was serching about some time ago, but all the portable devices within that tech uses/used stilo batteries, which - imho again - it's not that reliable (won't think at rechargeable ones too). I was close to find one as for audiocar, as the ones that claims USB features offers mp3 support, and not many others formats that could be better, thought that it would had needed a second device as for to record them (so at the end I'd just found a genuine audiocar and plug the DAP within the wired aux).
But minidiscs are clean to organize, to keep, and offers a good quality in audio, iirc.

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The MO storage was also on 3.5" and larger drives for PCs, but amount of storage was eclipsed by other technologies, though none are archive quality.

Sony crippled Minidisc.

The audio quality is far better than cassette, but not as good as 256 k mp3. I still have a Net MD player/recorder that still works. They are amazing low power but the mechanism wears out and eventually there will be nothing to read a Minidisc or the larger PC versions, so 100, 500, 1000 or 2000 years may be moot.
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M-DISCs are supposed to last 1000 years, that claim hasn't been proven in action yet. I somehow doubt we'll stick around long enough to find out.
M-Disc isn't inherently long life like a MO based Minidisc. It's just a variation of DVD technology.
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