Kobo Sage or Elipsa - move from 7"

[Buhaj]

My daily driver is the Kobo Libra 2, and been thinking of moving to a bigger screen - I mostly read at home, so portability is not an issue (can always take the Libra with me). Sage and Elipsa seem to be natural options, but I have a few questions: is the Elipsa screen more fuzzy with lower PPI? How is the Sage battery - will it suffice for 20 hours of reading with backlight set to 20-30% max? My intention is to have a screen that would be most similar to a paper book in size.

[salamanderjuice]

Originally Posted by Buhaj47

My daily driver is the Kobo Libra 2, and been thinking of moving to a bigger screen - I mostly read at home, so portability is not an issue (can always take the Libra with me). Sage and Elipsa seem to be natural options, but I have a few questions: is the Elipsa screen more fuzzy with lower PPI? How is the Sage battery - will it suffice for 20 hours of reading with backlight set to 20-30% max? My intention is to have a screen that would be most similar to a paper book in size.

What paper book in size? Hardcover? Trade? Mass market? All the standard eReader sizes are similar to some paper book size. Here are some dimensions assuming the screen is 4:3.

6" - 3.6" x 4.8"
7" - 4.2" x 5.6"
8" - 4.8" x 6 4"
10.3" - 6.18" x 8.24"

Keep in mind that's just the screen dimensions and doesn't include any bezel.

Yes, the 227 PPI Elipsa will be a bit less sharp than the Libra 2 or Sage.

[Sirtel]

I don't think the Sage would last for 20 hours with the light at 20-30%. At 5%, maybe.

[icallaci]

I moved to an Elipsa 2E after using the Forma, and I don't notice the lower resolution at all. I really love the size of the Elipsa. It feels like a hardback except lighter in weight. I read mostly at home, so portability is not an issue. If I was lugging it around with me, I would need to make sure it fits in my purse, which might be an issue for some people.

[Buhaj]

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

What paper book in size? Hardcover? Trade? Mass market?

Hardcover and mass market I guess if this is what they are called? I.e paperbacks slightly bigger than 8", I think that would be a majority, but also some hardcover books, so similar to 10". I don't know if the Sage screen size will be felt compared to the Libra, one inch doesn't seem like a massive difference.

[cellaris]

Here you can see an old size comparison I made with 6", 7.8" and 10.3" e-readers.

(I liked the Kobo Elipsa 2E screen better than the Kobo Sage screen, but that's just my personal preference).

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Buhaj47

Hardcover and mass market I guess if this is what they are called? I.e paperbacks slightly bigger than 8", I think that would be a majority, but also some hardcover books, so similar to 10". I don't know if the Sage screen size will be felt compared to the Libra, one inch doesn't seem like a massive difference.

Not massive, but still noticeable.

For me, the Sage is also slightly easier to hold in one hand, although it's heavier than the Libra. It's thinner and more ergonomic, at least for me. YMMV.

Of course, if you always use a cover, then that advantage will probably be lost.

[Cactus Chef]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I don't think the Sage would last for 20 hours with the light at 20-30%. At 5%, maybe.

I've got mine at 4% and I doubt I'm getting 20 hours out of it between recharges.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Cactus Chef

I've got mine at 4% and I doubt I'm getting 20 hours out of it between recharges.

Yes, but you have wifi and autosync on from what I remember.

[salamanderjuice]

Originally Posted by Buhaj

Hardcover and mass market I guess if this is what they are called? I.e paperbacks slightly bigger than 8", I think that would be a majority, but also some hardcover books, so similar to 10". I don't know if the Sage screen size will be felt compared to the Libra, one inch doesn't seem like a massive difference.

It's one extra inch diagonal but it's 30% more area.

[Buhaj]

I don't use a cover at home, tend to hold the reader with one hand. I wouldn't use a pen. Writing this on my 10 inch tablet, I'm starting to think the Elipsa 2E might not be that comfortable to hold over extended period of time and potentially overkill for novels or history books, but then it's 100 g lighter than the tablet.

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[meeera]

Originally Posted by cellaris

Here you can see an old size comparison I made with 6", 7.8" and 10.3" e-readers.

(I liked the Kobo Elipsa 2E screen better than the Kobo Sage screen, but that's just my personal preference).

Comparing text areas instead of covers, here's a Libra 2 and a mass market paperback.

[Quoth]

That's not a Mass Market size. Mass market AKA "pocket book" is smaller with an actual text area slightly smaller than a 7″ 3:4 aspect ereader with no margins. Typically 4.25″ x 7″ with 6.9″ diagonal text fill.

The next common larger size has text similar in area to an 8″ 3:4 aspect ereader like the Sage.

An initial paperback print run is often Trade size which is anything between 5.5” x 8.5” to 6” x 9” (about 9″ text fill diagonal excluding headers and footers).

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paperback#Mass-market
Though it's not accurate as often the hardback and initial Trade paperback are not the same in the UK and there may not even be a hardback.

I've series where there are 4 different sizes of paper editions (Discworld is one example). Some people find that very annoying.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by Quoth

That's not a Mass Market size. Mass market AKA "pocket book" is smaller with an actual text area slightly smaller than a 7″ 3:4 aspect ereader with no margins. Typically 4.25″ x 7″ with 6.9″ diagonal text fill.

I don't know why you're correcting me. I know what books are, and have been reading them for a while now.

This book was published nearly fifty years ago in the UK, a classic SF book. I measured it - 4.25 x 7 inch cover, with the diagonal text area just under 7 inches, as you say. The print is definitely too small for me to read comfortably!

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by meeera

I don't know why you're correcting me. I know what books are, and have been reading them for a while now.

This book was published nearly fifty years ago in the UK, a classic SF book. I measured it - 4.25 x 7 inch cover, with the diagonal text area just under 7 inches, as you say. The print is definitely too small for me to read comfortably!

Well, the photo shows a text that looks larger than the ebook screen, so either you've pasted wrong image or wrong paperback or mysterious ereader that's less than 7", or it's a strange optical illusion.
I've a Libra H2O and Libra 2 and loads of paperbacks where the text would fit on the screen. The Sage though is more paperback sized if you have margins, or fits the same amount as a larger paperback with small margins.

Despite what Amazon thinks you don't need much margin on ebooks. No issue with print registration, spine and opening it or dog-eared edges. Time Amazon stopped wasting the expensive eInk screen.