Amazon and DRM changes

[texasnightowl]

Originally Posted by issybird

Several posts have been deleted and one has been edited. Members are reminded that detailed help with DRM removal is not allowed at MR. Please, while trying to be as helpful as possible, limit yourselves to links to github or general discussion threads/posts here. Thanks.

I'm sorry. I think I was one of them. I go back and forth between here and reddit and wasn't thinking.

[Ebookus]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

Data please, or are you just pulling this out of the famed repository for such sweeping assertions?

JBaby is a kindle reddit mod, and there have been quite a few people mentioning this over there.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by texasnightowl

I'm sorry. I think I was one of them. I go back and forth between here and reddit and wasn't thinking.

NP. Obviously people mean well and are just being helpful.

[JBaby]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Just curious, what is the main reason they come back to Kindle (if there is one)?

KU, Send to Kindle, and Libby are among the most popular reasons. I know Kobo can do Libby. However, several people have multiple cards and they found it difficult to mangle them all with Kobo. Some people also like the simplicity of Kindle. They thought Kobo was too busy.

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

Data please, or are you just pulling this out of the famed repository for such sweeping assertions?

Feel free to come to r/Kindle and look it up yourself. My “famed repository” doesn’t have time to pull up individual posts for you.

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Kindle-exclusive authors I would think.

You are correct.

[hleo12]

I barely read at all these days, so I'm pretty absent with ebook/amazon/kindle discussions too, but I was recently going through reddit and saw this post . I still have about 5k titles I need to make a back up of, and I totally missed the cut off date for download & transfer. I was thinking I'd just get to it someday because I still have my Kindle with me. Is that no longer an option (through Calibre)?

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by JBaby

Feel free to come to r/Kindle and look it up yourself. My “famed repository” doesn’t have time to pull up individual posts for you.

I was replying HERE, at MobileReads, to a post that said

"I think most will just buy another Kindle. Several members have been switching to Kobo, but many end up coming back to Kindle. "

So understanding that statement as referring to members HERE, rather than to a site/forum/location not named or referenced in any way does not seem unreasonable.

[hleo12]

Originally Posted by JBaby

KU, Send to Kindle, and Libby are among the most popular reasons. I know Kobo can do Libby. However, several people have multiple cards and they found it difficult to mangle them all with Kobo. Some people also like the simplicity of Kindle. They thought Kobo was too busy.

Adding to this. Send to Kindle is the main reason why I'm still with Kindle (main reason why I switched too).

As for simplicity, I can attest to this too. I used to edit the heck out of my ebooks. Like stripping margins, maximizing screen real estate usage, etc. But now I can't be bothered to do all that. If my brain decides it wants to read, I just wanna read and take advantage of that

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by JBaby

Some people also like the simplicity of Kindle. They thought Kobo was too busy.

As someone who never used Kindle, this confuses me.

[slm]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Just curious, what is the main reason they come back to Kindle (if there is one)?

I no longer use my Kindles much but the main reasons I stuck with them were Send to Kindle and "it just worked". I tried Kobo and it was a pain:

1. The data got corrupted often
2. Lack of a "back" button
3. Generally annoying interface

I now use a Pocketbook which has similar features to the Kindle and very few annoyances. Of course, the Pocketbook bookstore is terrible but you aren't limited to it.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

As someone who never used Kindle, this confuses me.

As someone who has used both, the idea that Kobos are "too busy" confuses me too. With both it is perfectly possible to take them out of the box, turn them on, login and start reading. Not sure how much less busy that could be.

The reference issues with libraries was a nice reminder of how US-centric much commentary is, as gaining library access was the major reason I switched from Kindle back in 2018. In Aotearoa, as in many other countries, there is no library access for Kindles, only Kobos - and indeed Kobo makes much of that feature ins marketing for those countries.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by hleo12

I barely read at all these days, so I'm pretty absent with ebook/amazon/kindle discussions too, but I was recently going through reddit and saw this post . I still have about 5k titles I need to make a back up of, and I totally missed the cut off date for download & transfer. I was thinking I'd just get to it someday because I still have my Kindle with me. Is that no longer an option (through Calibre)?

You can get your books to Calibre from your Kindle, at the moment at least. You'd need deDRM 10.0.9 or alpha and the KFX Input plugin.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

As someone who never used Kindle, this confuses me.

Kindles have fewer customization options and tend to be more stable.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by slm

I no longer use my Kindles much but the main reasons I stuck with them were Send to Kindle and "it just worked". I tried Kobo and it was a pain:

1. The data got corrupted often
2. Lack of a "back" button
3. Generally annoying interface

I now use a Pocketbook which has similar features to the Kindle and very few annoyances. Of course, the Pocketbook bookstore is terrible but you aren't limited to it.

I've never had any data corruption with my Kobos, but others have. Annoying interface, though? No idea what you possibly mean by that. I find the Kobo UI perfectly ok.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JBaby

KU, Send to Kindle, and Libby are among the most popular reasons. I know Kobo can do Libby. However, several people have multiple cards and they found it difficult to mangle them all with Kobo..

Interesting comment on Libby. As a Kobo user who has multiple library cards, what exactly is the difficulty in using those multiple cards with Libby and a Kobo ? Libby's setup would be pretty much the same for either Kobo or Kindle since it's an app that runs external to your ereader. All I did was to link my Kobo to my Overdrive account which my Libby install is also linked to. Kobo gives you the option of using Overdrive or using an individual library on the device.

OTOH, considering that Kindle ebooks are only available from some libraries inside the USA whereas a Kobo can use any library supporting downloadable ePub files, I find some humour in people claiming that Kindles are better for use with libraries.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

So understanding that statement as referring to members HERE, rather than to a site/forum/location not named or referenced in any way does not seem unreasonable.

The discussion was about Kindle Reddit, of which JBaby is a mod. And yes, it was mentioned before.