The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 207

LazyScot · 05-07-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

I fully expect to lose my job now, if the cuts go through. But it will take some time and/or money for management to get rid of me. In the meantime, I am covered by the university statutes on academic freedom, so am one of the few people able to speak freely about the situation.
(The university statutes on academic freedom seem to give me the right to say what I like, provided that I don't prevent other people from saying what they like. In practice this means that I mustn't block an entrance or exit from a university building - say with a large demonstration; or invite a fascist onto the premises to speak. I don't actually have the inclination to do either of these options. But I have addressed a demonstration for the first time in my life.)

Does this particular dispute allow you to appeal to the Visitor? (Do you know who your Visitor is?) Sometimes exposing things to that high a level can produce unexpected results...

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Originally Posted by tirsales

The study thesis is accepted (so not completed ATM), but the diploma thesis (which would build on the study thesis) is not

In the UK, publications are often seen as an important achievement. Perhaps if, as is suggested, you can sell your work as producing publications (possibly at the price of giving the tutor who eventually picks up the work co-authorship), that might be a useful negotiating tactic.

desertgrandma · 05-07-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vivaldirules

I want to vent/rant/complain/justsaysomething. Geoff's avatar kitty is just too damned cute. Makes me want to go over and tickle it and give it a big wet kiss or something.

Wait. A big "wet" kiss???

tirsales · 05-07-2009, 09:55 AM

GOD DAMNED BS POLITICS.

I'm neither playing gotcha, nor laserdrome - but I believe it to be totally braindead to prohibit laserdrome or gotcha as a response to the rampage in Winnenden ... (It's not as if the killer did even play gotcha...)
Oh and the government wants to pass a law that allows the control of weapon owners without any suspicion ... (I dont own a gun, nor do I want one - but I believe searching the flat or house of s/o without even a suspicion is a path no government should take).
AND I believe prohibitions of gotcha or laserdrome to be ineffective (w/o any reason) and I object ineffective or unreasoned prohibitions for general reasons...
Are they even thinking before they write a law?

Nate the great · 05-07-2009, 10:08 AM

In case anyone is wondering, tirsales is talking about a ban on Paintball games and laser tag. And here is a transalted link:
http://translate.google.com/translat...tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

tirsales · 05-07-2009, 10:36 AM

Apologies .. Gotcha/Paintball and Laser Tag / Laserdrome - I didnt realize the differences (Gotcha<->Paintball, Laser Tag<->Laserdrome)

It's actually not only about a ban of Paintball and laser tags, but also about another tightening of the German laws regarding the private ownership of weapons. In effect they would state that any cabinet used to store arms would have to be biometrical secured (I dont really care about this - in the worst case it is a waste of money (last tightening regarding cabinets is only some years old), in the best case it increases security) - but it would also give the police / public order office to check on any weapon owner w/o prior suspicion (e.g. inspect his house in order to ensure that weapons are hold secure). In my eyes this is a grave violation of the sanctities of the home.
So far the searching of a house requires the decision of a judge or (at least) (serious) danger in delay.

Neither do I own weapons, nor do I want some nor am I competitive shooter or hunter. And I actually dont support free ownership of weapons - but I do believe that somewhere there is a limit where additional laws simply dont make any more sense and provide no additional security - and that (at the latest) any additional tightening is then (quite simply) plain wrong.

pshrynk · 05-07-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tirsales

I'm trying hard to actually stay calm. Writing about it in a non-calm way won't help, so I'm doing my best to write calmly

No, no, no... Here's how you do it:

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Now, don't you feel better?

tirsales · 05-07-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshrynk

No, no, no... Here's how you do it:

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Now, don't you feel better?

Hmm, yes, somehow I do

krisk · 05-07-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

One assumes one is referring to one's boss with this comment ....

sorry sorry sorry... that is my random explosion at my utter waste of oxygen co-worker. stand by. outbursts are random and often.

GeoffC · 05-07-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

No, no, no... Here's how you do it:

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Now, don't you feel better?

I believe it comes across far better in .....

Patricia · 05-07-2009, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LazyScot

Does this particular dispute allow you to appeal to the Visitor? (Do you know who your Visitor is?) Sometimes exposing things to that high a level can produce unexpected results...

Thanks, LazyScot. Yes, we have a Visitor, as a near-last resort. There's also a possibility of judicial review, among other options.

krisk · 05-07-2009, 12:26 PM

visitor? (images of alien visitations dance in her head)

GeoffC · 05-07-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krisk

visitor? (images of alien visitations dance in her head)

The Visitor may be called upon to give advice where an institution expresses doubt as to its powers under its charter and statutes. However, the most important function of the Visitor was within academic institutions, where the Visitor had to determine disputes arising between the academic institution and its members. Traditionally the courts have been exempted from any jurisdiction over student complaints.

krisk · 05-07-2009, 12:47 PM

ARRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!! we have over 40 open orders, both repair and new install, some as old as the 30th of March, we start work at 0745, it is now 0947 and these two CRETINS are still sitting on their arses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO fed up with them! I have reported them to my supervisor NUMEROUS times!!!! I wonder if I need to start with personnel? I am getting to the point where I am actually embarassed to tell people which unit I am with.

Bilbo1967 · 05-07-2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krisk

ARRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!! we have over 40 open orders, both repair and new install, some as old as the 30th of March, we start work at 0745, it is now 0947 and these two CRETINS are still sitting on their arses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO fed up with them! I have reported them to my supervisor NUMEROUS times!!!! I wonder if I need to start with personnel? I am getting to the point where I am actually embarassed to tell people which unit I am with.

Can't you just work 3 times as hard?

krisk · 05-07-2009, 01:25 PM

I am all about the multi tasking and have been doing EVERYTHING I can to get them to get out and work. I used to do what they do, they are not pulling any wool over my eyes, like they have on my supervisor. I have asked her if I can just start wearing work clothes, strapping my tool belt back on and show them how to do it.

05-07-2009, 10:36 AM	#3095
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	Apologies .. Gotcha/Paintball and Laser Tag / Laserdrome - I didnt realize the differences (Gotcha<->Paintball, Laser Tag<->Laserdrome) It's actually not only about a ban of Paintball and laser tags, but also about another tightening of the German laws regarding the private ownership of weapons. In effect they would state that any cabinet used to store arms would have to be biometrical secured (I dont really care about this - in the worst case it is a waste of money (last tightening regarding cabinets is only some years old), in the best case it increases security) - but it would also give the police / public order office to check on any weapon owner w/o prior suspicion (e.g. inspect his house in order to ensure that weapons are hold secure). In my eyes this is a grave violation of the sanctities of the home. So far the searching of a house requires the decision of a judge or (at least) (serious) danger in delay. Neither do I own weapons, nor do I want some nor am I competitive shooter or hunter. And I actually dont support free ownership of weapons - but I do believe that somewhere there is a limit where additional laws simply dont make any more sense and provide no additional security - and that (at the latest) any additional tightening is then (quite simply) plain wrong. Last edited by tirsales; 05-07-2009 at 10:40 AM.

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05-07-2009, 09:55 AM	#3093
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	GOD DAMNED BS POLITICS. I'm neither playing gotcha, nor laserdrome - but I believe it to be totally braindead to prohibit laserdrome or gotcha as a response to the rampage in Winnenden ... (It's not as if the killer did even play gotcha...) Oh and the government wants to pass a law that allows the control of weapon owners without any suspicion ... (I dont own a gun, nor do I want one - but I believe searching the flat or house of s/o without even a suspicion is a path no government should take). AND I believe prohibitions of gotcha or laserdrome to be ineffective (w/o any reason) and I object ineffective or unreasoned prohibitions for general reasons... Are they even thinking before they write a law?

05-07-2009, 10:08 AM	#3094
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	In case anyone is wondering, tirsales is talking about a ban on Paintball games and laser tag. And here is a transalted link: http://translate.google.com/translat...tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

05-07-2009, 12:26 PM	#3101
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	visitor? (images of alien visitations dance in her head)

05-07-2009, 12:47 PM	#3103
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	ARRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!! we have over 40 open orders, both repair and new install, some as old as the 30th of March, we start work at 0745, it is now 0947 and these two CRETINS are still sitting on their arses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO fed up with them! I have reported them to my supervisor NUMEROUS times!!!! I wonder if I need to start with personnel? I am getting to the point where I am actually embarassed to tell people which unit I am with.

05-07-2009, 01:25 PM	#3105
krisk Wizard Posts: 2,148 Karma: 8229 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the road again Device: kindle	I am all about the multi tasking and have been doing EVERYTHING I can to get them to get out and work. I used to do what they do, they are not pulling any wool over my eyes, like they have on my supervisor. I have asked her if I can just start wearing work clothes, strapping my tool belt back on and show them how to do it.