|  02-16-2025, 07:43 AM | #1 | 
| Omnivorous            Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1 | 
				
				Amazon ends allowing downloads
			 
			
			"Starting February 26, 2025, the “Download & Transfer via USB” option will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to your Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the “Deliver or Remove from Device” option. Learn more about managing downloads" Get your books before it's too late. | 
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|  02-16-2025, 08:10 AM | #2 | 
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | |
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|  02-16-2025, 08:18 AM | #3 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour | 
			
			I say we go for four!  (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)      Why? Well, why not! After all, we already have these: 
 Last edited by Dr. Drib; 02-16-2025 at 08:29 AM. | 
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|  02-16-2025, 08:24 AM | #4 | |
| Omnivorous            Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1 | Quote:  Yes, I've been away. And, darn... | |
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|  02-17-2025, 01:13 PM | #5 | 
| Fanatic            Posts: 531 Karma: 10000000 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hamden, CT Device: Kindle Paperwhite (11th gen), Scribe, Kindle 4 Touch | |
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|  02-17-2025, 02:38 PM | #6 | 
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			I think the most appropriate would be... The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Last edited by JSWolf; 02-20-2025 at 02:39 PM. | 
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|  02-17-2025, 03:08 PM | #7 | 
| Guru            Posts: 682 Karma: 8163192 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: East Coast, United States Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Clara HD, Galaxy Tab S5e, Kindle 4th Gen | 
			
			On a related note: I feel like I need to make a matrix/spreadsheet of what eReaders need what Operating Systems to be able to fully backup your ebooks. My wife has a Nook, and we recently switched her to a Mac, and I thought that you could decrypt the books straight off the device into Calibre like you could with a Kobo, but, no...you need either a rooted Android device or the legacy Windows app which is no longer offered. So for the time being, she's gotta hang onto that aging Windows 10 laptop just to be able to keep liberating her Nook purchases. Much in the same way that even Windows will have to hang on to an aging version of Kindle for PC to be able to get any of their books decrypted, moving forward, unless they have an old physical Kindle from which to pull the book from. I guess my point is, the eReader enthusiast community who likes to remove the DRM from their books seems to take it for granted how much this whole setup barely works, and is only one malevolent vendor update away from completely collapsing. Even Kobo is the current "best-behaved" of the eReader vendors, but only because they haven't updated their DRM scheme in some time. If they changed that tomorrow, we'd basically be completely SOL. | 
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|  02-17-2025, 03:14 PM | #8 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | Quote: 
 And Kobo has two DRM schemes - their own (kepubs) and Adobe (epubs). Both have long since been broken. They'd have to update both of them. | |
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|  02-17-2025, 03:52 PM | #9 | 
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | |
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|  02-20-2025, 10:33 AM | #10 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | |
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|  02-20-2025, 11:28 AM | #11 | 
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | |
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|  02-20-2025, 02:12 PM | #12 | 
| Guru            Posts: 761 Karma: 7025686 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Elipsa, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Inkpad Color | 
			
			Books are mine*, not property of Amazon, if it is not possible I won't buy kindle ebook anymore.  *I Know, Amazon says that they sell to you the right of reading the ebook on their devices or apps, I don't agree so no more Kindle ebooks. | 
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|  02-20-2025, 06:56 PM | #13 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,576 Karma: 36389706 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Device: Samsung 54A, Kobo Libra H2O, Samsung S6 Lite | 
			
			I agree, I get my books from Kobo, and if they stop allowing downloads, I will cease buying books. I have over 2700 books and I love rereading them.
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|  02-20-2025, 10:41 PM | #14 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | |
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|  02-20-2025, 10:42 PM | #15 | 
| Bibliophagist            Posts: 48,088 Karma: 174315300 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos | 
			
			Attempted kindness. Suggesting that his IQ was less than that of the average watermelon is so unkind.
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