Amazon has removed Download & Transfer option

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ratinox

More about trying to make sense of Amazon's ambiguity, and what we can do about it. The quote from The Verge was updated after many of us received direct notices from Amazon: "as well as supported Kindle devices with WiFi capability." The The Verge quote does not incude the word "supported" which suggests that older devices such as my PW3 may continue to work.

I've been saying that all along that older WiFi devices won't be cut off when D&T goes.

[DNSB]

And we need to wait a while to find out just what Amazon meant when they referred to "supported Kindle devices with WiFi capability". Does it mean any and all Kindle eInk ereaders with WiFi? Does it mean Kindle eInk devices which can support their next generation of KFX? No one outside of Amazon knows the answer yet. Until such time as we have some facts to work with, endless repetitions of a personal opinion does not make that opinion a fact.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by gbm

Yes the only hard facts we know at this time is that D&T is going away. I can--as of the time of this post--still git kindle books using my Kindle and Device View, with the KFX input plugin in calibre, this may change at any time.

We also know that Amazon has said "Kindle devices with WiFi capability,". That to me means no more eBooks or the K1, K2, DX, & DXG unless you side-load.

[DNSB]

leaving off the word supported does not help your argument. Compare the meaning of "Money is the root of all evil" to "Love of money is the root of all evil".

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by el_vandragon

I think the biggest impact for me are the Kindle Unlimited exclusive books. A lot of series I read are self-published and don't have a physical release, they also often enroll in Kindle Unlimited to reach more readers which I believe requires the ebook be exclusively available on Kindle.

It seems like my only options going forward are to hope that the existing KFX methods keep working, drop the series, or be okay with only having DRM copies that I can't control which is unfortunate.

Use your K3 to download as Mobi or KF8 and then send them to your PW5 as KFX if that's the format you want to read.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

leaving off the word supported does not help your argument. Compare the meaning of "Money is the root of all evil" to "Love of money is the root of all evil".

I grabbed that from the Verge quote. Amazon has not said supported in that quote.

[Hellmark]

Originally Posted by gbm

Yes have been buying ebooks at Baen for over 20 years.

If I remember right Tor also does DRM free ebooks, plus any ebooks from humblebundle.com are DRM free, and also Ebooks.com also has the DRM free section. O'Reilly I think does DRM free still, but only from some retailers, now that they've stopped selling directly (ebooks.com I know has stuff from them that's DRM free)

Originally Posted by BionicGecko

It is considered a bad practice in these parts to remove DRM from KU books, as the KU payment model relies on the number of pages read, which can only be accounted for when reading the book online and as downloaded on the device from the Amazon servers; stripping DRM from KU books effectively prevents authors from being paid their fair share.

Yup, if there is anything that you do want that's in KU, either read it first before stripping DRM, or buy it out right. I personally buy it outright.

[Sirtel]

Angry Robot, an UK publisher of mostly SF/Fantasy, also sells DRM-free on their website (they sell internationally).
https://angryrobotbooks.com/

[frostymug]

This news is ominous to be sure. My only worry about the future is if they publish new ebooks ONLY in KFX format and not in AZW3 format. That would mean my old Kindle Touch (3rd gen model?) would not be able to get these new books because it can't and never will be able to handle the newer KFX format. I'm not sure which generation Kindle is the newest that cannot use KFX but if they go that way, all those old kindles will be useless for upcoming titles. I guess I will find out if new titles will still be able to be downloaded (using wifi, not using a USB cable) to my ancient Kindle come Feb. 26.

[www2]

Do any one know is have impact for the Kindle for PC/MAC?

[Aleron Ives]

Kindle for PC is not the same thing as D&T. You should still be able to download books for the time being, but Amazon could kill off Kindle for PC at any time.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

Not on the device itself though, right? Just via sync.

Personally, I don't think I've ever bought a book through the on device shop on any ereader I've ever owned -- Nook, Kobo, or Kindle.

My Kindle touch definitely still has access to the store, I checked last night when when this post was first made.

Shari

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by frostymug

This news is ominous to be sure. My only worry about the future is if they publish new ebooks ONLY in KFX format and not in AZW3 format.

I do believe that Amazon will eventually make newly published books only available in KFX, but I doubt that it will happen next week.

Elimination of older formats only for new books would mean that all previously purchased books could still be downloaded and read on the still supported older WiFi Kindles, while giving their owners incentive to upgrade their device in order to read the latest best sellers.

[www2]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

Kindle for PC is not the same thing as D&T. You should still be able to download books for the time being, but Amazon could kill off Kindle for PC at any time.

Thanks.
I have some have some feeling Amazon wand to kill off the none KFX formats on the kindle.
And K4PC and K4MAC have KFX support.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by www2

Thanks.
I have some have some feeling Amazon wand to kill off the none KFX formats on the kindle.
And K4PC and K4MAC have KFX support.

But deDRM works only with older versions, which Amazon could discontinue any time.