Amazon has removed Download & Transfer option

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by DNSB

I seem to remember mentions of Fire tablets not being eligible for Download & Transfer so would not show in the list of devices.

I think they show, but you cannot remove the DRM if they're the target devices.

[Hellmark]

Originally Posted by Byrdie

My Kindle For PC version is 2.3.5 which I have blocked from updating and it worked with Calibre & plug-ins fine as of a couple months ago. Have not updated my Paperwhite from 5.16.8 because I did not want to catch the bug or feature or whatever it is that was messing with sideloaded books and/or making batteries drain faster than they should. Has that been fixed now? My reader's been in airplane mode for months and I'm nervous about letting it connect since I'd rather not bork it. Which I think trying to download a couple thousand books in the next few days might do.

Amazon sometimes does rapid tweaks to their DRM, to break attempts to get around it.

Also, look into the scripts for automatically downloading. I've had one running in the background here, snagging everything for me. Makes it so much quicker.

[Byrdie]

I have that download-all-kindle-books.js script but can't get it to run. I think it needs a browser plugin that I don't have, or else does not work in Chrome.

[haertig]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

There are lots of folks still using their Paperwhite 3 and 4...

I use a PW3. That's the newest I have. My daughter has a PW4.

Are these devices considered outdated? I've casually looked at the upgrades listed for newer eReaders, but to me nothing seems worth paying even a few dollars to upgrade to.

I've never considered my PW3 as old and inferior. It does what I need and I can't think of anything I'd ask it to do differently. When it dies I'll replace it with something. That won't be an Amazon-something though, not after what they just did to D&T. I hope Kobo's will hang in there and not go the way of Amazon before I need to replace my PW3.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Byrdie

I have that download-all-kindle-books.js script but can't get it to run. I think it needs a browser plugin that I don't have, or else does not work in Chrome.

Not sure about Chrome but it works with the Tampermonkey extension in Firefox.

I did make a couple of changes to the script. I changed the site to amazon.ca and also to the Purchased items page and dropped the wait time to 5000 ms from 14000.

// @match        https://www.amazon.ca/hz/mycd/digital-console/contentlist/booksPurchases/*

// Wait a little before processing the next dropdown
              await new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, 5000));

[Aleron Ives]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

But don't wait too long or Amazon might update your Kindle for hardened DRM. That is, if you have one of the relatively new Kindles still receiving updates.

What is the oldest Kindle that still might receive such an update? By the same token, would that be the same as the newest Kindle that can't use KFX? If I'm not mistaken, the device in the latter category is the PW1.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

What is the oldest Kindle that still might receive such an update? By the same token, would that be the same as the newest Kindle that can't use KFX? If I'm not mistaken, the device in the latter category is the PW1.

I think the oldest Kindle still receiving updates is the PW4. What is the oldest Kindle that, in theory, could receive such an update... only Amazon knows.

[odamizu]

Originally Posted by jhowell

From Amazon’s email announcement, emphasis mine:

Adding that word seems unnecessary to me. Putting on my conspiracy theory hat, I wonder whether this is a hint that they may be dropping delivery of books to Kindles that are outside of the 5-year support window at some point. Unlikely, but that added word bothers me.

I was wondering the same thing. I have an old K4BNT with an aging battery that I've kept around just in case.

I was thinking of attempting to replace the battery (do you really need the hair dryer per the how-to video???), but I don't want to go to all that trouble and expense if Amazon is going to pull support for it in near future.

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[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

What is the oldest Kindle that still might receive such an update? By the same token, would that be the same as the newest Kindle that can't use KFX? If I'm not mistaken, the device in the latter category is the PW1.

Oldest Current
Kindle Paperwhite (10th Generation) 5.17.1.0.3 is probably the PW4.

Newest not got an update (so this and older likely safe for removing DRM)
Kindle Oasis (9th Generation) 5.16.2.1.1, the Oasis 2. 7" (Oasis 1 is 6")

KFX from a PW 3 deDRMs fine. Kindle Paperwhite (7th Generation) 5.16.2.1.1

The PW1 and likely any lower FW didn't get the KFX backport Kindle Paperwhite (5th Generation) 5.6.1.1

See https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...MQC26VQQMM8XSW

The K3 and some other old Kindles didn't originally have azw3/KF8, so need updated if older than on the FW page.

See https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=525

[Kaetrin]

Originally Posted by jhowell

From Amazon’s email announcement, emphasis mine:


Adding that word seems unnecessary to me. Putting on my conspiracy theory hat, I wonder whether this is a hint that they may be dropping delivery of books to Kindles that are outside of the 5-year support window at some point. Unlikely, but that added word bothers me.

I'm worried about this too.

[drofgnal]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

I'm seeing the message too now. I have several suitable E-Ink kindles, but this does make me consider moving to buying from Kobo.

Yea, I'd consider Kobo, but for the fact that when I did a cursory search of the same title books on kobo and amazon, kobo seemed to be higher priced. Plus I look at amazon deals of the day and get some good ones that way, ultra cheap. I'm reading the omnibus edition of the first three books of Dragonriders of Peru I got for 1.99.

For all the DRM removal I've done of books I've purchased, I never really go back and load books from calibre that much. So maybe it's time to just delete calibre and those books and forget about it.

[drofgnal]

Originally Posted by Kaetrin

I'm worried about this too.

Yea, if they cut off my devices, a voyage and oasis 3, then maybe I have no choice but Kobo.

[salamanderjuice]

Originally Posted by drofgnal

Yea, I'd consider Kobo, but for the fact that when I did a cursory search of the same title books on kobo and amazon, kobo seemed to be higher priced. Plus I look at amazon deals of the day and get some good ones that way, ultra cheap. I'm reading the omnibus edition of the first three books of Dragonriders of Peru I got for 1.99.

For all the DRM removal I've done of books I've purchased, I never really go back and load books from calibre that much. So maybe it's time to just delete calibre and those books and forget about it.

Kobo price matches with Amazon, you get credit back. They also have deals of the day and because publishers set the price it's often the exact same ones just maybe on a different day.

You can also buy books from other places like Google Play books with Kobo, you're not stuck with just their store like Amazon.

[gordonsj]

As I have posted in some other threads we come back to whether or not Amazon will get round to rendering all Kindles prior to K7 obsolete. That is, unable to download books at all because they don't support kfx and will not be updated. There are millions of devices out there that this would affect and customer pushback would not be trivial. However unless they do that there will be a route to removing DRM that remains unplugged and Amazon will have to endure what ever flack they get from Publishers.