Amazon has removed Download & Transfer option - Page 6

ratinox · 02-13-2025, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylander

Does Kindle4PC work on a Mac? If so, I'll download 1.17 as I don't have a Kindle that's old enough to download directly onto the device and then transfer to Calibre.

No, and Macintosh (the OS) hard requires a newer version which cannot be exploited by DeDRM.

You should be able to run K4PC in a Windows VM. Just be sure to install K4PC and apply the anti-update hacks (search the forums, I don't have a direct link) while the VM is disconnected from the network.

Waylander · 02-13-2025, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ratinox

No, and Macintosh (the OS) hard requires a newer version which cannot be exploited by DeDRM.

You should be able to run K4PC in a Windows VM. Just be sure to install K4PC and apply the anti-update hacks (search the forums, I don't have a direct link) while the VM is disconnected from the network.

Good to know. That's too technical for me, so I'll go through the books in my wishlist that are only available on Amazon, and buy+download the ones I really want to read before Feb 25. After that, it'll be purchasing through Kobo and using the app to add to Calibre.

mallomar · 02-13-2025, 11:04 AM

FYI, user hollindale on the Kindle subreddit posted that he made a Tampermonkey script to mass download your books:
"If anybody has a lot of books and wants to download everything in one go before they take the option away, I wrote a Tampermonkey script for myself that will go through a single page and download everything. You have to click through the pages, but it saves you clicking the same thing 25 times for each page and forgetting where you were in the list.

https://github.com/chrishol/greasemo...indle-books.js"

Quoth · 02-13-2025, 11:04 AM

Should emails with <no-reply> and customer support that is jumping through hoops (with no phone or email) be illegal?

Quote:

From Amazon.co.uk <no-reply@amazon.co.uk>
Subject Important Notice: End of Support for Download & Transfer via USB
To redacted@redacted

[Amazon smile logo].co.uk

Dear Customer,

Thank you for being a loyal Kindle customer. We wanted to let you know about changes to the Download & Transfer via USB feature in the Manage Your Content and Devices page. Starting February 26, 2025, while you can continue reading books previously downloaded on your Kindle device, you will not be able to download and transfer via USB any Kindle content. We apologize for any inconvenience this change may cause.

You can, of course, continue to read Kindle content using Kindle for Web, or the free Kindle apps for Android, iOS, Mac, and PC as well as supported Kindle devices with WiFi capability. You may be eligible for a discount on the purchase of a new device, please visit http://amazon.com/tradein for more information.

If you have any questions or require assistance, please visit http://www.amazon.com/kindlesupport.

Best Regards,

The Kindle Team

Amazon.co.uk is a trading name for Amazon EU Sarl, for Amazon Europe Core Sarl and for Amazon Media EU Sarl, all of which have their registered office at 38 avenue John F. Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg.
©2025 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. Amazon and all related marks are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.

[smile logo]

Quoth · 02-13-2025, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I just received an actual announcement email about this from Amazon:

The Trade in values are derisory. £5 for a PW3, Oasis 2 or Voyage.

I've never thought Kindle trade-in is worth while, if a decent amount, then it's worth selling locally or giving to friend/family. A PW3 is still a decent model.

Quoth · 02-13-2025, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waylander

Good to know. That's too technical for me, so I'll go through the books in my wishlist that are only available on Amazon, and buy+download the ones I really want to read before Feb 25. After that, it'll be purchasing through Kobo and using the app to add to Calibre.

Interestingly not all KU titles are exclusive, but likely all the SP via KDP Select. That also would have been my plan, but for now importing from an old WiFi Kindle works. Tested this morning.

Sirtel · 02-13-2025, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waylander

Good to know. That's too technical for me, so I'll go through the books in my wishlist that are only available on Amazon, and buy+download the ones I really want to read before Feb 25. After that, it'll be purchasing through Kobo and using the app to add to Calibre.

And the Kindle for PC 1.17 wouldn't download books published from 2023 onward anyway. You'd need the version 2.40 for those.

Uncle Robin · 02-13-2025, 11:25 AM

Going through my Kindle content on the website I noticed that there was an update to one the books. So I applied the update tehen selected D&T - THIS TIME, the message appeared. So it looks like my buying books from Kindle ends in no more than 11 days

issybird · 02-13-2025, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

The Trade in values are derisory. £5 for a PW3, Oasis 2 or Voyage.

The point of the trade-in is the 20% discount on a new Kindle.

Quoth · 02-13-2025, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by issybird

The point of the trade-in is the 20% discount on a new Kindle.

Well, if the Scribe did PDF notes natively (no sending PDFs and annotations to Kindle or messing with Windows Amazon KFX creation tools), used USB mass storage and Amazon still have Download & Transfer and Amazon didn't mess up covers or delete ebooks or update without asking.

Well, sorry, I forgot there was the 20% too.

Quoth · 02-13-2025, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirtel

And the Kindle for PC 1.17 wouldn't download books published from 2023 onward anyway. You'd need the version 2.40 for those.

Also unlike an actual Kindle, they can easily insist only the latest Android, iOS and Fire apps are to be used. The app was free & without warranty? Hasn't Barnes & Noble done that?

rantanplan · 02-13-2025, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by texasnightowl

I know the K5 aka K4BNT will since I have that one. I believe KF8 started with the K3/Keyboard, so K3, K4, K5/K4BNT. After that I'm not sure as I skipped several generations. I know my 10th gen Oasis is KFX.

Understanding this correctly would mean that this device here is fine?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/375894785490

haertig · 02-13-2025, 12:51 PM

Benefits of getting older:

(1) Realizing that you can enjoy retirement because you have enough money for the rest of your life
(2) Realizing that you have enough ebooks stored locally (and backed up), DRM free, converted and saved redundantly in both EPUB and AZW3 format, to last you for the rest of your life

So I can be very selective regarding eBook purchases in the future. Amazon does not fit into that future any more (they were barely in it to begin with). Small loss for them. Zero loss for me. Fair enough - I am not distraught.

Proper prior preparation in your workflow for every Amazon eBook purchase in the past sets you free for the future (B&N taught me this valuable lesson years ago). Those who didn't prepare in the past might want to seriously consider not postponing doing it now. Time is short for the Amazon case. Probably 99% of the readers here are already well prepared, so this is mostly an intellectual discussion, not a call for immediate action for the majority of us. I imagine the only action needed for many here is a quick review of their stockpile of eBooks to make sure they have a lifetime supply, and acquire more (outside of Amazon) if needed. For the unfortunate potential eventuality that other eBook vendors may try to do the same thing that B&N and Amazon have done.

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Sirtel · 02-13-2025, 01:18 PM

I certainly have enough books in my calibre library to last for several hundred years (I'm not a particularly fast reader). That doesn't mean I'm going to stop buying more ebooks. Not until there's still a way to remove DRM.

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mallomar Connoisseur Posts: 68 Karma: 8682 Join Date: May 2018 Device: Onyx Boox Note Air 2, Kindle Oasis 2	FYI, user hollindale on the Kindle subreddit posted that he made a Tampermonkey script to mass download your books: "If anybody has a lot of books and wants to download everything in one go before they take the option away, I wrote a Tampermonkey script for myself that will go through a single page and download everything. You have to click through the pages, but it saves you clicking the same thing 25 times for each page and forgetting where you were in the list. https://github.com/chrishol/greasemo...indle-books.js"

02-13-2025, 11:25 AM	#83
Uncle Robin Diligent dilettante Posts: 3,661 Karma: 52758936 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: in my mind Device: Kobo Sage; Kobo Libra Colour	Going through my Kindle content on the website I noticed that there was an update to one the books. So I applied the update tehen selected D&T - THIS TIME, the message appeared. So it looks like my buying books from Kindle ends in no more than 11 days

02-13-2025, 12:51 PM	#88
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	Benefits of getting older: (1) Realizing that you can enjoy retirement because you have enough money for the rest of your life (2) Realizing that you have enough ebooks stored locally (and backed up), DRM free, converted and saved redundantly in both EPUB and AZW3 format, to last you for the rest of your life So I can be very selective regarding eBook purchases in the future. Amazon does not fit into that future any more (they were barely in it to begin with). Small loss for them. Zero loss for me. Fair enough - I am not distraught. Proper prior preparation in your workflow for every Amazon eBook purchase in the past sets you free for the future (B&N taught me this valuable lesson years ago). Those who didn't prepare in the past might want to seriously consider not postponing doing it now. Time is short for the Amazon case. Probably 99% of the readers here are already well prepared, so this is mostly an intellectual discussion, not a call for immediate action for the majority of us. I imagine the only action needed for many here is a quick review of their stockpile of eBooks to make sure they have a lifetime supply, and acquire more (outside of Amazon) if needed. For the unfortunate potential eventuality that other eBook vendors may try to do the same thing that B&N and Amazon have done.

02-13-2025, 01:18 PM	#90
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,485 Karma: 239219543 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I certainly have enough books in my calibre library to last for several hundred years (I'm not a particularly fast reader). That doesn't mean I'm going to stop buying more ebooks. Not until there's still a way to remove DRM.