Is Kindle PPW 12th gen safe to buy for sideloading (working book covers etc, etc)

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

And I get barely half of it, because I use the frontlight, although on low levels. Not everyone wants to use their ereader with the light off all the time.

But you still use it.

Not many people will read for 10 hours solid. Certainly if travelling or camping a power bank is better than the power cover which is expensive and reviews suggest it doesn't work well.

And simply a larger screen uses x4 power or more for twice diagonal at same aspect ratio.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Quoth

But you still use it.

Yes. But the OP said that one of their requirements was long battery life. The battery life of the Sage is not long for an ereader by any stretch; it's only long when compared to tablets and phones.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Quoth

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Not many people will read for 10 hours solid. Certainly if travelling or camping a power bank is better than the power cover which is expensive and reviews suggest it doesn't work well.

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Personally, the less often I have to plug something in, the better. For most of my vacations, I wouldn't need a power bank to charge my readers.

[JSWolf]

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[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Yes. But the OP said that one of their requirements was long battery life. The battery life of the Sage is not long for an ereader by any stretch; it's only long when compared to tablets and phones.

True and my TCL nxtpaper phone & tablets have better run time than a Sage with the light on low.

[C4thie]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

There is currently no 7" black and white Kobo model, though.

I know, that's why if I finally decide on Kobo, then I'll just wait for their next B&W 7" model.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The PW5 is sold out/discontinued and the refurbished models are rather expensive if you can even find one.

I found two shops which still sells brand new PW5 (16gb versions) in my country, but these are definitely the last pieces. That's why Im doing fast research right now. Ofc if it comes to price, its not best tbh. They definitely should sell it cheaper (price is similar to 12th from Amazon). But after all I can ignore it if 11th gen will be after all less problematic for me than lastest one (12th).

Originally Posted by LMx7ng10

Amazon still has new 11th gen Paperwhites for sale: Kindle-Paperwhite-16-GB-adjustable.

Not available for my location unfortunately :/ We've got only 12th gen PPW + Basic here.

Originally Posted by LMx7ng10

I bought one in December for the same reasons you are considering it. And, I keep it offline and use it for sideloading because of the same concerns about MTP.

That's the plan probably Unfortunately it means that its going to be my last Kindle. Since all new models probably surely will be MTP. But who knows, maybe sooner or later people will find a way to make it all working (book covers, etc etc) for MTP connections.
If not, then there's always Kobo. And I guess their new models will be only better.

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When it comes to batteries - my current paperwhite 4 is fine for around 35 hours of reading. IMO it's quite impressive, since it's 6 (?) years old already. However I use it w/o wifi, font size 1, bold 3, and usually quite low lightning.
Of course when reading manga, battery drains much faster.
So would be nice to expect at least same battery consumption from my new device, or even better.
But what I must admit, charging is kind of slow (no usb c). Its around 3h

[texasnightowl]

Originally Posted by C4thie

Not available for my location unfortunately :/ We've got only 12th gen PPW + Basic here.

I'm guessing woot isn't an option for you either? They've got 8gb Paperwhite 11th gen's available for $69.99 today (plus a coupon for $10 off if you've never bought from woot before).

I didn't "need" one, but I wanted an inexpensive touch model to try since I've only owned physical page turn button models so far. (I currently use a K4B and an Oasis.)

[Sirtel]

Woot only ships in the US, not internationally.

[haydnfan]

Originally Posted by C4thie

Does new PPW 12th gen works fine for sideloading (with Calibre)? And does book covers works fine? (in library and as screensaver, sleepmode). And if yes, then how to do it correctly. Does it work with mobi? azw3? kfx?

I don't know the last time I posted here, but seeing the ignorant replies I had to jump in.

I actually own a Paperwhite 12th gen. Sideloading with Calibre works fine. The book covers appear in the library and as screensavers. I use kfx. I have hundreds of ebooks that I sideload with zero issues whatsoever.

If you have to convert them in Calibre, when you're at it select the personal document setting. It will help you avoid a known bug and also make it easy to filter sideloaded vs kindle ebooks if you ever wish to.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

I don't know the last time I posted here, but seeing the ignorant replies I had to jump in.

I actually own a Paperwhite 12th gen. Sideloading with Calibre works fine. The book covers appear in the library and as screensavers. I use kfx. I have hundreds of ebooks that I sideload with zero issues whatsoever.

If you have to convert them in Calibre, when you're at it select the personal document setting. It will help you avoid a known bug and also make it easy to filter sideloaded vs kindle ebooks if you ever wish to.

Do you have WiFi turned on? If WiFi is off, if you turn WiFi on, do you lose the covers?

[DNSB]

Perhaps you should read @haydnfan's message? Pay special attention to the line that read:

If you have to convert them in Calibre, when you're at it select the personal document setting.

As has been noted in multiple discussions, books sent with the cdetype PDOC work better than books sent with the cdetype set to EBOK since Amazon basically doesn't touch PDOCs. See the attached image for where to select that option.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Perhaps you should read @haydnfan's message? Pay special attention to the line that read:


As has been noted in multiple discussions, books sent with the cdetype PDOC work better than books sent with the cdetype set to EBOK since Amazon basically doesn't touch PDOCs. See the attached image for where to select that option.

But, that limits you to what you can do on the PW6. You cannot use a font to reduce the line height. In KFX, it's fixed. KFX is (IMHO) an abomination.

[C4thie]

I made some research and yes, It looks like with 12th gen PPW it's possible to make it working. By setting [pdoc] instead of [ebok] etc, etc.

However after all, since new features of PPW6 wasn't that important for me, I finally decided to buy PPW5
In my specific case it will be just more convenient, because now I still can use AZW3 (for my native language ebooks which KFX doesnt support). And add hyphens to them etc, etc. And use KFX only for english books.
Also I don't have to worry that something wont work suddenly. I just do everything as always. For example I can resize manga cover (made with KCC), by using only resize cover plugin. With one click. And Kindles shows it in proper size, even if its not cover embed into file.

My PPW5 came yesterday btw. I was little worried about its battery, since this Kindle probably spent around 2 years in shop. But it came with 50-60% I already uploaded some books and manga and everything works great. Also I didn't expect such a big change from 10th gen PPW. It feels really different and better.
I was also wondering about bigger screen in the past (for reading manga), but now I know that 7" is max for me. 6"8 of PPW5 is already big enough for me and bigger device would be inconvenient to use in my case.

I'll follow which way Amazon goes in the future, if they fix their problems with sideloading and make it better, or even worse. So when it will be time to change to new device I'll decide if I stay with Kindle or change to Kobo or something else. However it's a matter of the future, since I expect that PPW5 should serve me for many years from now.

Thanks everyone for participating in this topic!

[tomsem]

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[tomsem]

Originally Posted by C4thie

I made some research and yes, It looks like with 12th gen PPW it's possible to make it working. By setting [pdoc] instead of [ebok] etc, etc.

This is true.

It's actually better that /system is hidden, calibre doesn't have to collect its humungous directory contents, doesn't create its cover thumbnail recovery folder, and gets to 'ready' much more quickly (e.g. Scribe 2022 vs Colorsoft).