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			Thank you. Just copy your post #429 and start a new thread in whatever forum you think is most appropriate. Then post here where the new thread is located so people who've been following it here can jump to the new location.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			This might be a contrarian view. Why not place this in the MobileRead Wiki; this way not just the creator can edit / maintain the info.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Forget B&N and forget Apple for eBooks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			B&N may or may not work for downloading eBooks and you need the Windows app. Plus, the app does not work on Windows 11. As for Apple, there's no way to remove the DRM. Last edited by JSWolf; 01-08-2025 at 07:05 PM.  | 
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 Also, the unlimited simultaneous usage tag only applies to some very specific cases - if you have no eink Kindle and are using a Mac. On Windows or with an eink Kindle books without this tag can be deDRMed perfectly well. Apple books cannot be read on a Kindle, so no point in including them. Google Play and Ebooks.com instructions are the same as for Kobo books. Last edited by Sirtel; 01-08-2025 at 08:08 PM.  | 
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			It should be added that B&N only sells in the US. All the others are international.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Google Play is Adobe DRM so the same as what you have for Kobo.  When DRM-free, no ADE or DeACSM Plugin needed.  Kobo books are also available from the Kobo Desktop app or Kobo ereaders and can be pulled into calibre with the Obok DeDRM plugin. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I've just dowloaded a book from Kobo via web and got an acsm link which provides an epub. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I've had loads of Kobo ereaders and bought ebooks from Kobo. I've never used the Kobo Desktop. Nothing (buying, loading, managing, registration, firmware changes) needs it. I don't use ADE either. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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