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Old 12-22-2024, 09:55 AM   #3286
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Old 12-22-2024, 10:28 AM   #3287
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I wonder if this is a way to inflate the page count for KU payouts.
It doesn't count "pages" per se. It counts characters and then performs a bit of math. Otherwise, just imagine how large the default font sizes would be from your typical self-pub, LOL.

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Old 12-22-2024, 10:30 AM   #3288
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My copy looks like below
The most interesting thing to me was that in viewing your screenshot, it was screamingly obvious that it wasn't Frank who'd written the visible text. :-)

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Old 12-22-2024, 01:03 PM   #3289
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My copy looks like below
That's what I've seen it looking like.
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Old 12-24-2024, 02:01 PM   #3290
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This issue has cropped up in recent years with a lot of self-published authors; presumably they all use the same formatting program without changing the default options. Chapter headers have huge white spaces under them, usually 12-15 em, which can be more than 1/3 of the page. WHY is this necessary?
Note that the size of vertical margins on a Kindle is affected by the font sizing slider, even if the height is given in percent. It's around font size 4 where the scaling generates proper vertical margin sizes. Any size above that gives margins larger than they should be.

Of course, if the original CSS said 12em, that's far too much. A 6" reader with reasonable font size has only 25-30 lines per screen, and a vertical margin of 30-50% of the screen is ridiculous.
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Old 12-24-2024, 02:32 PM   #3291
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Of course, if the original CSS said 12em, that's far too much.
Yes, that's what I meant. It's 12-15em in the css. Absurd. 2em is usually sufficient.

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Old 12-25-2024, 04:13 PM   #3292
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Even more problematical i that the main text is sans-serif. I associate sans-serif like that to be a product of someone who has no clue about reading.
You know, I am coming to the conclusion that you and I don’t agree on anything. I change everything to sans serif.
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Old 12-25-2024, 04:37 PM   #3293
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It doesn't count "pages" per se. It counts characters and then performs a bit of math. Otherwise, just imagine how large the default font sizes would be from your typical self-pub, LOL.

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Reminds me of being told to use a specific fontsize while writing term papers, lol. No 72 point.
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Old 12-25-2024, 04:38 PM   #3294
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Yes, that's what I meant. It's 12-15em in the css. Absurd. 2em is usually sufficient.
In most cases with a regular chapter header, I use a top/bottom margin of 0.8em.
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Old 12-25-2024, 05:11 PM   #3295
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In most cases with a regular chapter header, I use a top/bottom margin of 0.8em.
I want a bit more space than 0.8em, that's too cramped for me.
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I want a bit more space than 0.8em, that's too cramped for me.
In most cases, I use <h2>Chapter Title</h2> and it's the size of an H2, bold, centered, 0.8em t/b margins. That means I don't have too much wasted space.
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Old 12-25-2024, 06:40 PM   #3297
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The book I'm reading has quite a lot of errors. Some are obviously OCR errors, but not all - like several instances of "I could care less" where they should be "I couldn't care less".

No, it's not self-published. It's a well-known author from a major publisher (Tor). There was apparently even an editor, according to the copyright page. I wonder if he was asleep or drunk on the job?
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Old 12-26-2024, 01:17 AM   #3298
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The book I'm reading has quite a lot of errors. Some are obviously OCR errors, but not all - like several instances of "I could care less" where they should be "I couldn't care less".

No, it's not self-published. It's a well-known author from a major publisher (Tor). There was apparently even an editor, according to the copyright page. I wonder if he was asleep or drunk on the job?
"I could care less" is a commonly used phrase. Almost as common as the correct, original version.
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"I could care less" is a commonly used phrase. Almost as common as the correct, original version.
Never seen it in properly edited, traditionally published books before. Only in self-published books.
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The book I'm reading has quite a lot of errors. Some are obviously OCR errors, but not all - like several instances of "I could care less" where they should be "I couldn't care less".

No, it's not self-published. It's a well-known author from a major publisher (Tor). There was apparently even an editor, according to the copyright page. I wonder if he was asleep or drunk on the job?
It's a well-known, longstanding and significant difference between Nth American English and variants more aligned with British English. There are YouTube videos now several years old mocking the US vaersion of the idiom, and it has been discussed often over the last decade or more on various linguistics blogs I follow.

It feels wrong to me, but I try to remind my self that by their definition idioms (and indeed languages in general) are not bound by "logic"
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