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Old 10-30-2024, 05:16 PM   #2386
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Amazon won't do drop these older Readers. But they could make it very difficult by changing the DRM and forcing you into a firmware update.
I doubt amazon will ever update the firmware for any kindle more than 10 years old.
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Old 10-30-2024, 05:39 PM   #2387
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I doubt amazon will ever update the firmware for any kindle more than 10 years old.
In which case Kindle DRM will never be unbroken.
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Old 10-30-2024, 05:44 PM   #2388
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I doubt amazon will ever update the firmware for any kindle more than 10 years old.
I agree. I suspect that they are not concerned enough about those who copy books from their Kindle via USB to do anything to prevent it on older devices.

It is more likely that they will discontinue Download & Transfer for all Kindles eventually. Tenth generation and newer Kindles will see continued DRM enhancements to make it difficult to use them for book extraction by copying from the device.

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Old 11-09-2024, 06:18 PM   #2389
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Well is not DRM removal illegal?
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Old 11-09-2024, 06:38 PM   #2390
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Well is not DRM removal illegal?
It's fair use.
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Old 11-09-2024, 06:47 PM   #2391
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Well is not DRM removal illegal?
Depends on the legislation in your country.
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Old 11-09-2024, 08:29 PM   #2392
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In which case Kindle DRM will never be unbroken.
Well no. They could easily do something like tell customers after XX date you will no longer be able to use YY old Kindle to download any more books.
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Old 11-09-2024, 08:57 PM   #2393
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Well is not DRM removal illegal?
In the U.S. at least, the DMCA explictly prohibits "circumventing" DRM with some limited exceptions (e.g. right to repair). But nobody actually cares as long as you don't start doing things like redistributing the files.
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Old 11-09-2024, 09:26 PM   #2394
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Well no. They could easily do something like tell customers after XX date you will no longer be able to use YY old Kindle to download any more books.
Those of us who still own a working K1 will be a little annoyed if that happens.
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But nobody actually cares as long as you don't start doing things like redistributing the files.
Apparently Amazon cares, or they would not be so diligent in trying to stop people from removing DRM.

(Of course I do realize what you meant. Unfortunately it's no longer true that no one cares.)
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Old 11-10-2024, 02:25 AM   #2396
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Those of us who still own a working K1 will be a little annoyed if that happens.
Didn't Amazon offer all active K1 owner an upgrade to Oasis 3? I don't think Amazon care about K1 user anymore after that offer.
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Well no. They could easily do something like tell customers after XX date you will no longer be able to use YY old Kindle to download any more books.
So, those customers can then switch to one of the other methods to remove DRM.
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So, those customers can then switch to one of the other methods to remove DRM.
There aren't that many left. If they also discontinue D&T, then that's it for Mac owners, for example. Kindle for Mac can no longer be used to deDRM.
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There aren't that many left. If they also discontinue D&T, then that's it for Mac owners, for example. Kindle for Mac can no longer be used to deDRM.
Mac users can't use the Android dev environment method?
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Mac users can't use the Android dev environment method?
I'm not sure if it even works anymore. Last I tried, it refused to download some newer books.
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