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Old 10-29-2024, 09:41 AM   #151
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I like my two buttons. My thumb rests right beside the button and with the tiniest rotation I turn the page rather than having to lift and move over to touch the screen which changes my hold on the device. I wish there was an on/off switch for the touch screen. The opposite bezel is so narrow it makes it hard to hold on the side without inadvertent and unwanted page turns. Or make the left bezel the same width as the right so one can hold either side without unwanted page turns.
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I have waffled on this one. Initially I was very excited about a new Kindle Colorsoft and even ordered one. To get the price down I was going to trade in my Kindle Scribe and my Kindle Signature Edition (11th gen?). But, I already own a Kobo Libra Colour and use it a lot mostly because of the physical page turn buttons. I was thinking that the color might look better on the Kindle but I guess we will see. Then I have been seeing comments that latest kindles do not have the Download and Transfer option on the amazon contents page which bothered me.
So, for now, I have canceled my trade-ins and canceled my Colorsoft order completely. I may change my mind again in the future once I see comparison videos or see one in person at Best Buy. But for now, I am passing I think.
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Here is a rare hands-on with the Colorsoft, that specifically addresses how it compares to the B/W Paperwhite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXXLbjRhhF4 . It confirms what many of us suspected, that the B/W experience is slightly degraded by the extra layers, similar to other color E-INK devices. It does show side by side images, so you can see for yourself.
I think TheSmitty was specifically looking for a comparison of the color.
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Old 10-29-2024, 12:01 PM   #153
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I like my two buttons. My thumb rests right beside the button and with the tiniest rotation I turn the page rather than having to lift and move over to touch the screen which changes my hold on the device. I wish there was an on/off switch for the touch screen. The opposite bezel is so narrow it makes it hard to hold on the side without inadvertent and unwanted page turns. Or make the left bezel the same width as the right so one can hold either side without unwanted page turns.
Which device? The Kindle Oasis 2 and PW4 and newer can turn it off. Kobos can be set to only use swipe instead of swipe and tap.
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Old 10-29-2024, 04:46 PM   #154
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Which device? The Kindle Oasis 2 and PW4 and newer can turn it off. Kobos can be set to only use swipe instead of swipe and tap.
The original Scribe and the PW5 is it? I very rarely use my PW which is the latest version not counting the 2 week old option. I like that extra real estate on the Scribe and the far more infrequent page turning too much and the PW is way too tiny at 6.8". I wish the new PW had gone to an 8" screen and I'd have a good reason to get one. My Kobo Sage has the buttons so I'm always holding the wide bezel to use them.
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Saw the first comparisons between colorsoft and other kaleido 3 devices. It really looks like the best kaleido, still no gallery 3 but id say at least in a direct comparison with kobo for example is pretty noticeable
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Saw the first comparisons between colorsoft and other kaleido 3 devices. It really looks like the best kaleido, still no gallery 3 but id say at least in a direct comparison with kobo for example is pretty noticeable
Can you share where you saw it? I see there's a review of the Colorsoft on Tom's Guide and Engadget.
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Sure, this guy does a little comparison with libra and a couple of others during the review
https://youtu.be/KRHmi9bnuK0?si=fdJY13yWH6DspPnp
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I think that the Colorsoft might be the first device that might be useful for comics due to the guided view. No other device (except for Android based devices of course) support something like this right now.

So in this regard, it's probably better than the Kobo devices.
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Guided view is the panel by panel thing? personally i can't find it really useful. I don't like it and most pages in comics today have an irregular structure that's hard to just crop small rectangular and display them. I'd just never bother with comics till we talking about a 10" to be honest.
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Sure, this guy does a little comparison with libra and a couple of others during the review
https://youtu.be/KRHmi9bnuK0?si=fdJY13yWH6DspPnp
Thank you for sharing. This review was well done!
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Sure, this guy does a little comparison with libra and a couple of others during the review
https://youtu.be/KRHmi9bnuK0?si=fdJY13yWH6DspPnp
Thank you for sharing this, can’t wait to get mine

One thing in that review caught my attention and I think it might be of interest to people here: the reviewer used a PDF to demonstrate the color, and apparently the colors did not show up when the PDF was sideloaded; colors appeared only once the file was sent via Send To Kindle.

I’m not sure if it was an issue with that specific file, but not being able to sideload color content could be a pretty big drawback.
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It's likely that a PDF "sent to" a Colorsoft does not arrive as a PDF. If there is a conversion to that format available then that could be copied directly to the Colorsoft.
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It's likely that a PDF "sent to" a Colorsoft does not arrive as a PDF. If there is a conversion to that format available then that could be copied directly to the Colorsoft.
I’m not sure it’s that simple; Amazon didn’t explicitly add any new format to their list of supported file types.

In fact I think this might be similar to the handling of PDFs on the Scribe; as far as I know (please someone correct me if I’m wrong) the only way to enable writing directly on a PDF is by sending it via Send To Kindle. It’s not possible to write on sideloaded PDFs. Whatever transformation Amazon applies on their side cannot be done via Calibre, either because the actual output format is unknown, or because the Kindle won’t open it.
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^ amazon doesn't list current amazon file types as supported since they assume that all of them are created and delivered by amazon.

PDFs "sent" to a Scribe get converted to KPF, which can only be read on a Scribe. Users can run a PDF through Kindle Create themselves to make a KPF which can be copied and presumably read on a Scribe. The KFX output calibre plugin can convert KPF to KFX. It seems to me that the situation is likely similar with the Colorsoft, but no one will know until someone starts playing with it.
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Saw the first comparisons between colorsoft and other kaleido 3 devices. It really looks like the best kaleido, still no gallery 3 but id say at least in a direct comparison with kobo for example is pretty noticeable
With the 4 color Readers being shown together, the Kobo looks better then the Kindle. There is a lot of detail lost on the Kindle VS the Kobo.

I've posted the link to the video such that it will start showing the 3 color Readers with the Kindle and the Kindle does lose a lot of detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRHmi9bnuK0&t=570s
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