Cybook Gen 3 with Epub support on Thursday - Page 10

orwell2k · 04-30-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The 505 and 700 supports PDF, ePub, and BBeB all in DRM. So actually, Sony was the first to go with multiple DRM on a dedicated device.

I'm thinking that the BeBook will have ADE for DRM and drop Mobipocket's DRM if they even keep the format.

Good point - I stand corrected.

I guess I have a blind spot when it comes to Sony - they "ignored" me for so long I tend to ignore them now.

Anyhow, I hope BeBook don't drop the Mobi DRM format. The inclusion of ePub wasn't accompanied with a rumour to drop Mobi, but the CyBook fiasco makes me wonder. Of course, end of the day you can buy any format and make them DRM-less for personal use. That's fine for someone who doesn't mind a little effort, but for the average Joe who wants to buy a reader and load some books, no mess no fuss, it sucks.

I hate DRM, but if it persists, the more formats supported on each device the easier it is for honest consumers. But as usual they are the ones DRM, DMCA and the publishing industry effectively treats like criminals and screws over. C'est la vie.

EowynCarter · 04-30-2009, 01:39 PM

I hate DRM, but if it persists, the more formats supported on each device the easier it is for honest consumers. But as usual they are the ones DRM, DMCA and the publishing industry effectively treats like criminals and screws overYeah, amazon is killing itself with such a "if you read my format, don't read anything else".

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I call them too, and it seems that there is only one major bug that they prevent them to release the firmware, they working activly on it and they want to release it ASAP but without such bugs

Intersting. Though bugs can be nasty sometimes.
Ah, you where the reason i keeped getting "ligne is busy" signals ?

Godzil · 04-30-2009, 02:32 PM

LOL

maybe

ErwinOtten · 04-30-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

Ah, time to convert my books to ePub.

Only when the ePub reader has dictionary support and when I can convert my dictionaries also. If not then bookeen is taking a big step back instead of forward.

tompe · 04-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ErwinOtten

Only when the ePub reader has dictionary support and when I can convert my dictionaries also. If not then bookeen is taking a big step back instead of forward.

Well, since the navigation looking up a word is so slow I can live with looking up word using MobiPocket on my phone since it takes approximately the same time.

delphidb96 · 04-30-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Cornelius

According to a french site which has contacted Bookeen (http://www.actualitte.com/actualite/...pport-Sony.htm),
the firmware with the EPUB support announced for today in the Weltbild Cybook Gen3 is a Release Candidate firmware, for Weltbild only, to allow them to compete right now with Sony.
The final Firmware update should come in a few weeks.

So we could imagine that Booken having to provide E-Pub support on April 30 and no later for Weltbild could have decided to focus on this customer first and release a firmware on time but without all the features (eg. Mobipocket suppport), and this could have delayed the final firmware version release...

(Translation from Bookeen-speak-to-English) It should be available sometime shortly before their 1st-gen Gen3 purchasers die of old age.

Derek

AlexBell · 04-30-2009, 10:32 PM

Here is the response to an email to Bookeen Support

We will release the new firmware in a few weeks. Please be sure that you
will be informed and have more information as soon as we release it.

Regards, Alex

HarryT · 05-01-2009, 02:03 AM

Good news: I asked specifically about Mobi support, and got this answer:

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We are not willing to drop support for the Mobipocket DRM.
Please be sure that we will find a solution for all our user that read like you prc files.

Best regards,

Bookeen Support Team

tompe · 05-01-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Good news: I asked specifically about Mobi support, and got this answer:

This is consistent with two versions of the firmware.

HarryT · 05-01-2009, 04:20 AM

Yes, it certainly does sound that way.

Jellby · 05-01-2009, 05:00 AM

I hope they at least release some firmware version that supports DRM-free Mobipocket and ePUB.

EowynCarter · 05-01-2009, 05:10 AM

The drm on Epub sound nasty...
Epud souds intersting, but the drm scare the hell out of me.

wallcraft · 05-01-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

The drm on Epub sound nasty...

It marginally easier (but still of doubtful legality some places) to strip the DRM from Adobe ePub than from MOBI, see Adobe ADEPT DRM for EPUB circumvented. A disadvantage of ePub DRM is that you need a Desktop Adobe Digital Editions to download the ebook, and this is Windows and Mac only (no Linux version). MOBI can be downloaded by any web browser.

wallcraft · 05-01-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

I hope they at least release some firmware version that supports DRM-free Mobipocket and ePUB.

The best approach, given MobiPocket's conditions, would be to provide two firmwares:

DRM-free ePub and DRMed MOBI
DRM-free MOBI and DRMed ePub

However, I'm not sure that Adobe would allow a DRM-free version of its reader to be released, let alone MobiPocket. Even though Adobe charges $75K for the ePub/PDF reader license it probably still requires allowing DRMed ebooks, because Adobe makes money from them too.

EowynCarter · 05-01-2009, 07:50 AM

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but still of doubtful legality some places

DRM are what should be illegal

So, my sister can't un-drm the pdf she bought, as she don't have a windows. And her illiad won't read it either. (She didn't though the pdf could be protected...)

And there is one of my book calibre won't convert to epub. a bit anoying...

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