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Old 01-23-2024, 08:17 AM   #36976
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Well, it IS interesting. While I hate cooking, I do sometimes enjoy reading about various historical ways people cooked and ate.
You'd like the history of the Cornish Pasty.



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It was in the 1700s & 1800s that pasties became popular with working class families in Cornwall but they no longer contained the rich and decadent fillings of the 13th century, instead, they consisted of a simple short crust pastry case with potato, swede and onion, all common vegetables, and occasionally some cheap pieces of meat if available. This is how the humble pasty was born.

As mining boomed in Cornwall, pasties became a go-to meal for the miners’ crib breaks; they were an all-in-one meal that could be taken down the mines and eaten without cutlery. The wives of Cornish miners would lovingly prepare these all-in-one meals to provide sustenance for their spouses. Sometimes, fruit was cooked into one end of the pasty to provide a sweet treat at the end of their meal (these were known as “tinners” pasties). A miner’s wife would carve her husband’s initials into his Cornish pasty, so that he was able to distinguish his from all the others (how cute is that!)
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:18 AM   #36977
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In the UK, for some unknown reason they call ground beef mince. They also call potatoes tattys.
Potatoes are only tatties in the North, esp. Scotland.

They are spuds around here.
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:22 AM   #36978
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Potatoes are only tatties in the North, esp. Scotland.

They are spuds around here.
A spud is any of various sharp, spadelike or chisel-like tools used for rooting out weeds, stripping off bark, etc.

Spud is also (IMHO) is a silly word for potato. We have it in the US, but it's not really used.
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:25 AM   #36979
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:44 AM   #36980
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They are spuds around here.
"Spuds" is very common in the Midlands and the South-West of England from personal experience.

I do love a crispy jacket spud on a cold evening... drenched in a sea of buttery cholesterol! Yum.
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:54 AM   #36981
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Spud is also (IMHO) is a silly word for potato. We have it in the US, but it's not really used.
I use it.
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:11 AM   #36982
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"Spuds" is very common in the Midlands and the South-West of England from personal experience.

I do love a crispy jacket spud on a cold evening... drenched in a sea of buttery cholesterol! Yum.
A jacket potato is just a potato. A crispy jacket potato is just a baked potato.
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:13 AM   #36983
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:15 AM   #36984
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A jacket potato is just a potato. A crispy jacket potato is just a baked potato.
Let's call the whole thing off.
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Old 01-23-2024, 10:40 AM   #36985
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Certainly when Aussie floaters are mentioned. I mean pie in pea soup?

And yet each on their own is no problem.
I know I'll regret this. What I see of Aussie Floaters makes them look like US-based "pot pies," which are like thickened stews, effectively, inside savory pie crusts, right? But not really "solid," except when frozen.

They (US Pot pies) are not like the "hold in the hand and eat" meat pies, like Pasties, from the UK, at least, not in my admittedly limited experience.

So, do floaters go in the hand or on the plate with a fork and other utensils?

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Old 01-23-2024, 10:54 AM   #36986
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Floaters don't sound very appetising to me! I'd need to see one.

I've seen some meals called "pies" that are essentially a stew with a pastry lid. I think that's cheating. A pie in my mind needs to be completely surrounded in pastry.

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Old 01-23-2024, 01:22 PM   #36987
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Floaters don't sound very appetising to me! I'd need to see one.

I've seen some meals called "pies" that are essentially a stew with a pasty lid. I think that's cheating. A pie in my mind needs to be completely surrounded in pastry.
Those are from people that struggle making pie dough and crusts. They don't know how to do it very well, so they end up with pasty, undercooked, doughy bottoms and burnt lids, lol.

To me, a pot pie is only a pot pie when it's surrounding the goodies, the dough, that is. OTOH, put a half-baked (ha!) pot pie in front of me and see if I reject it. NOT BLOODY LIKELY.

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Old 01-23-2024, 03:04 PM   #36988
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In the UK, for some unknown reason they call ground beef mince.
Hardly an unknown reason. Looking up definitions for mince, you find: "cut up or grind (food, especially meat) into very small pieces, typically in a machine with revolving blades."

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They also call potatoes tattys.
I thought that was a Scottish thing. The singular is tatty, the plural is tatties. Probably from Scots Gaelic buntàta.

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In the US it's ground beef and potatoes.
Do you mean ground sirloin, ground chuck, ground round, ground prime rib, etc.?
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So, do floaters go in the hand or on the plate with a fork and other utensils?
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A floater is served in a bowl which hold the pea soup in which it 'floats'. Preferably with a dollop of tomato sauce on the pie. Definitely not a hand food. The one example I had from a local restaurant run by a couple of Aussies used a very thick mushy pea soup and the tomato sauce was an option. I enjoyed it but it did not make my top ten I want to try them again foods.

On the other hand, their shepherd's pie made with lamb was one of the best meals I've had in the last 5 years. Yes, I know that shepherd's pie should be made with lamb, made with beef, it should be called cottage pie.

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Do you mean ground sirloin, ground chuck, ground round, ground prime rib, etc.?

Also sometimes labeled as "hamburger."


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