The Vent and Rant Thread

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Well, it IS interesting. While I hate cooking, I do sometimes enjoy reading about various historical ways people cooked and ate.

I enjoy cooking and reading about historical recipes and cooking techniques and even trying some of them. Some of those recipes are enough to have you wondering how any one survived eating them.

One example would be The Whole Duty of a Woman which is downloadable. The text is pretty grotty but since the original dates from 1707, that's not all that surprising.

[Thasaidon]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

English is kind of a dumb language.

The example of "mincemeat" shows that is not the case.

What it shows is that the English language has a long history and that changing customs and practices have have led to changes in the meanings of words, idioms and turns of phrase.

Remember England has been a single unified Kingdom for over one thousand years.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Thasaidon

. . .
Remember England has been a single unified Kingdom for over one thousand years.

Not quite, between December 1653 to May 1659 the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland was a republic ruled by the Lord Protector (Oliver and Richard Cromwell).

And in 1381 Wat Tyler wouldn't have called it unified

[John F]

Originally Posted by Thasaidon

The example of "mincemeat" shows that is not the case.

What it shows is that the English language has a long history and that changing customs and practices have have led to changes in the meanings of words, idioms and turns of phrase.

Remember England has been a single unified Kingdom for over one thousand years.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Not quite, between December 1653 to May 1659 the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland was a republic ruled by the Lord Protector (Oliver and Richard Cromwell).

And in 1381 Wat Tyler wouldn't have called it unified

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Not quite, between December 1653 to May 1659 the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland was a republic ruled by the Lord Protector (Oliver and Richard Cromwell).

And in 1381 Wat Tyler wouldn't have called it unified

From wiki "Unification of Angles, Saxons and Danes: 12 July 927"

2023 - 927 = ~1096 years
1659 - 1653 = ~6 years
so ~1090 years which is greater then 1000, so over 1000 years. Maybe not continuous, but over 1000. *

* Please note that I am very ignorant of European history.**
** I am not interested in a history lesson.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

You forgot mince as a verb: to walk with affectedly dainty steps.

BR

I didn't actually; I contemplated it for a nanosecond or so, but I think in context, it would be hard to mix those two/three up. I mean, mince (ground beef); mince pie (apple and whatever) and then a mincing gait? IDK, maybe it's just me.

I remember...I forget which thread, etc. but it came up around "pies." In the UK of course, you guys have all those lovely meat pies, which aren't all that commonplace here, not as lunch/hand food. Someone went on about mince pies and I sorta got confused...anyway.

That's why I ask! I mean, if someone says "do this and that, cook it and serve with whipped or clotted cream," I'm pretty sure I know it's not ground beef-mince. But...you know.

Hitch

[DNSB]

Perhaps an Aussie floater?

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Perhaps an Aussie floater?

I now live in terror of asking questions here.

Hitch

[Thasaidon]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Not quite, between December 1653 to May 1659 the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland was a republic ruled by the Lord Protector (Oliver and Richard Cromwell).

And in 1381 Wat Tyler wouldn't have called it unified

During these two episodes the country was still a single state and did not splinter into several countries.

It also remained a kingdom even if the king was in exile during the Commonwealth.

Wat Tyler just led an unsuccessful rebellion. There have also been other rebellions/civil wars but the population still saw themselves as English belonging to a single country and were just fight fighting over who ruled.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I now live in terror of asking questions here.

Hitch

Do you feel that asking questions here is a threat to your physical, emotional or psychological well-being?

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Do you feel that asking questions here is a threat to your physical, emotional or psychological well-being?

Yes.

Hitch

[Martinoptic]

Certainly when Aussie floaters are mentioned. I mean pie in pea soup?

And yet each on their own is no problem.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

The mother of first world problems :rofl

But it worked and IMHO, it's made their business better as they now have reliable deliveries.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by neil_swann80

Darn foxes have been at the bins again. Anyone else in the UK sick of the amount of bins the councils expect us to use for general and recycling etc? If it's not the foxes it's gulls, crows or just the wind turning the area into a litter strewn bomb site.

I do hope the bins in the UK have been secured what with the multiple storms and high winds.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Food scraps, mostly. Fruit peels, vegetable peels, anything that naturally degrades. Not human/animal waste, no. The cat poo goes to the general (non-recyclable) waste.

Cat poo should be picked up with a biodegradable poo bag. We have dog poo waste bins and we use biodegradable poo bags. Usually use two bags a day.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I actually had no idea mincemeat meant something else than ground meat before reading it here. Then I had to google it. In Estonia "mincemeat" as in pie filling et al is exactly that, "minced/ground meat".

In the UK, for some unknown reason they call ground beef mince. They also call potatoes tattys.

In the US it's ground beef and potatoes.