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Old 12-30-2023, 12:39 PM   #346
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A Passage to India by E. M. Forster is a dreadful book. It's so bad that even the movie is awful.
It's hard for me to see why someone would single out this particular book. I get not liking it, but there are untold worse books out there. Forster can write and write well.
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Old 12-30-2023, 01:37 PM   #347
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You've all read about the book club that took 28 years to read Finnegans Wake, meeting once a month? They finally finished this past October.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/b...smid=url-share

And the punchline?

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They turned back to the beginning and started over. As indeed the text suggests.

Actually, I haven't, but I'm going to check out that link right now. Thanks!

(I read about 30-40 pages of Finnegans Wake when I took a course on experimental writing. It's like reading this: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", a chant that makes perfect sense. )
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Old 12-30-2023, 01:44 PM   #348
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I abandon roughly as many books as I finish and can't name any in the uncompleted read category that stand out.

One I recall finishing, despite great boredom, is One-Dimensional Man: Studies in the Ideology of Advanced Industrial Society by Herbert Marcuse.

An aquaintance of mine is a graduate of St. John's College, where every student is assigned the same list of great books. When I told him I would have difficulty finishing many books on the list, he told me he can read anything. I believe him and admire him for that (and other things).
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Old 12-30-2023, 02:42 PM   #349
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It's hard for me to see why someone would single out this particular book. I get not liking it, but there are untold worse books out there. Forster can write and write well.
I found it to be an awful book when I read it. I did not like any of the characters. And the story was not good as well. Some authors do sometimes come up with a stinker and this is Forester's.
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Actually, I haven't, but I'm going to check out that link right now. Thanks!

(I read about 30-40 pages of Finnegans Wake when I took a course on experimental writing. It's like reading this: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", a chant that makes perfect sense. )
The audiobook edition is about 29 hours. That's what I would do if I was going to read this.
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Old 12-30-2023, 04:18 PM   #351
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My memory isn't that great, so I can't remember the "most" boring. Two that I can think of are Dhalgren and Bleak House.
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:38 PM   #352
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An aquaintance of mine is a graduate of St. John's College, where every student is assigned the same list of great books. When I told him I would have difficulty finishing many books on the list, he told me he can read anything. I believe him and admire him for that (and other things).
What a depressing list, almost all old and/or dead white men
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What a depressing list, almost all old and/or dead white men
The race and gender of ancient authors is often unproven, but agreed on the dead part.
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Old 12-31-2023, 02:08 AM   #354
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Sometimes you are just not ready to read a book the first time you try. After 27 years, you are a different person, with different tastes. Kudos to you for giving the book another shot after so many times not liking it.
Well said, rkomar.

I'm just now reading "Robinson Crusoe", having avoided it for most of my life. I got it from Project Gutenberg when I bought my first Kindle.

I must say, I don't really feel that I missed out on much, waiting all those years. It's readable, but so dang repetitive! If I'd picked it up and tried to read it, all those years ago, I'd have thrown it away.

But now I can persevere with it... just.
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The race and gender of ancient authors is often unproven, but agreed on the dead part.
That list is dreadful. There needs to be current/modern books and not just a list a dead authors from a time that has nothing to do with the here and now.
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A strange list? Hayden quartets, Schubert songs, ...
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That list is dreadful. There needs to be current/modern books and not just a list a dead authors from a time that has nothing to do with the here and now.
The point of St. John's is a classical education; that's what the students go there for. Why not? All schools don't have to be everything to everyone. And I'd dispute, strenuously, that the western canon has nothing to do with the here and now.
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The point of St. John's is a classical education; that's what the students go there for. Why not? All schools don't have to be everything to everyone. And I'd dispute, strenuously, that the western canon has nothing to do with the here and now.
That fits better then just a "a list of books".
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That list is dreadful. There needs to be current/modern books and not just a list a dead authors from a time that has nothing to do with the here and now.
We haven't changed that much since we first started recording stories. This is especially true for the human heart, which doesn't seem to have evolved at all. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, which is one of the most basic things you learn when you read the old classics.
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The point of St. John's is a classical education; that's what the students go there for. Why not? All schools don't have to be everything to everyone. And I'd dispute, strenuously, that the western canon has nothing to do with the here and now.
Ah, thanks, that makes more sense of the list. Though still a bit disappointing not to see the Ramayana or Analects etc. included.
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