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[AudioPhool]

Originally Posted by Quoth

You can't use a Qi device easily in your hand while it's charging, but you can use a cable. It also wastes space and electricity.

I agreed a clock on a page was a personal preference, but if no-one had it it wouldn't reduce reading enjoyment and most people have a phone or watch.

Having had Qi devices for years, we've never needed to use any of our devices while they were charging! Our Qi stands are vertical and angled at approx. 60-degrees. Simply placing the device in the stand -- not fumbling with a cord and needing to see where to plug & insert it -- encourages frequent and consistent charging. That helps with keeping the devices charged, with no need to use them while charging because we forgot, or failed to keep them charged.

When home, the device has to be placed somewhere. The sort of vertical cradle we use, takes up less space than laying the device down in a horizontal plane. The angled vertical position of the stand and the placing of the device on it, is convenient and easier than plugging it in. Also, the consistent plugging/unplugging addresses the MTB (Mean-Time-Between) failure of the device’s internal female connector. However, that issue is device design dependent. But why add component stress when it is unnecessary to do so?

We have a gaggle of wall warts and different cables. For our lack of ever needing to use a device while it was charging (because we allowed it to discharge), but in the unique instance that we needed to do so, grabbing a cable & wall wart would be simple & quick to do.

As far as wasting electricity is concerned, it appears that wireless charging is less efficient that a direct connection. If energy is used, it is used; whether that use is a “waste”, is defined by the user who is choosing to use and pay for it. Personally, and over my many decades, energy use, like breathing and eating et al., is a natural and necessary process. Other than the DC energy used to charge hand-held devices, I have far too many other issues to fret over, like what wax to use after washing the dog, or deciding what music to play, or book to read.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Ethically and for a lot of people no longer technically as they won't know how to download them to be able to remove the DRM or they have an older DeDRM that won't remove the DRM from KFX.

But yes, it can be done if you know how.

I tend to think if they did it before they will get it to work again.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

I tend to think if they did it before they will get it to work again.

It was very easy t o get a KU eBook fia KindleforPC 1.7 and get KF8. Now it cannot be done. The only way to use KindleforPC is to use a version that gets KFX and some don't know they may be able to remove the DRM and convert to ePub.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It was very easy t o get a KU eBook fvia KindleforPC 1.7 and get KF8. Now it cannot be done. The only way to use KindleforPC is to use a version that gets KFX and some don't know they may be able to remove the DRM and convert to ePub.

Some won't, sure. But look how complex the android way, look at how many people are doing it. People will find a way.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by John F

Some won't, sure. But look how complex the android way, look at how many people are doing it. People will find a way.

Personally, I found the Android way a relatively simple and easy setup. Even writing a batch file to copy downloaded files from the open emulator to a Windows computer was trivial.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Personally, I found the Android way a relatively simple and easy setup. Even writing a batch file to copy downloaded files from the open emulator to a Windows computer was trivial.

And there you go. So Jon is wrong once again.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by John F

And there you go. So Jon is wrong once again.

No comment on whether Jon (JSWolf) was wrong. What I was disagreeing with was John F's comment on how complex the Android method was.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Quoth

You can't use a Qi device easily in your hand while it's charging, but you can use a cable. It also wastes space and electricity.

I agreed a clock on a page was a personal preference, but if no-one had it it wouldn't reduce reading enjoyment and most people have a phone or watch.

Using a portable device (phone, tablet, e-reader,etc) while it's plugged in is the best way I know of to damage the charging port.

Show me someone who uses their reader while it's plugged in, and I'll show you someone who complains about how "flimsy" the charging port is within a year.

Shari

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

And there you go. So Jon is wrong once again.

I am correct. You are wrong.

I said KindleforPC, not KindleforAndroid.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I am correct. You are wrong.

I said KindleforPC, not KindleforAndroid.

Jon, I think many posters would appreciated it if you stopped just reading the last post(s) in a thread and repling out of context, or repeat things that were mentioned fairly recently in the thread.

This is what kicked off the chain:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

... for a lot of people no longer technically as they won't know how to download them to be able to remove the DRM or they have an older DeDRM that won't remove the DRM from KFX.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by John F

Jon, I think many posters would appreciated it if you stopped just reading the last post(s) in a thread and repling out of context, or repeat things that were mentioned fairly recently in the thread.

I know that I would.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by shalym

Using a portable device (phone, tablet, e-reader,etc) while it's plugged in is the best way I know of to damage the charging port.

Show me someone who uses their reader while it's plugged in, and I'll show you someone who complains about how "flimsy" the charging port is within a year.

Shari

I do it all the time. No damaged charging port in 12 years.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I do it all the time. No damaged charging port in 12 years.

Also maybe 20 years.

Though USB-B, mini-USB and USB-C all seem more robust. I've only had micro-USB cables fail.

I've things that dock in a holder: kettle, DECT cordless phones, handie mobile radios. That makes more sense than inductive charging as it's less space and a jiggle won't stop it charging, and no limit to power (2500W kettle).

We have two Nintendo Switch here (neither are mine) and the charge is a USB-C dock, but for some strange reason it covers the screen, though not the controllers. I don't think a regular 5V USB-A cable can charge it but the charger cable can plug-in direct. Also, while the OLED version (we don't have it) has an ethernet port on the charging dock, a regular USB-C ethernet adaptor works direct or on the dock, for somewhere with poor WiFi. A USB-C HDMI adaptor doesn't work direct, but both kinds of dock have it

Compared to a dock a Qi mat is less functional. Docks for mobile phones used to be common in cars and less bother than BT + Qi.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by AudioPhool

Having had Qi devices for years, we've never needed to use any of our devices while they were charging! Our Qi stands are vertical and angled at approx. 60-degrees. Simply placing the device in the stand -- not fumbling with a cord and needing to see where to plug & insert it -- encourages frequent and consistent charging.

Yes, I love the Qi stands for my phone. The angle makes my phone a bedside clock as I can glance and see the time without having to move to pick up the phone. Some posters seem to mix up their opinion with fact.

I wouldn't pay extra for wireless charging on an ereader, as they have to be charged so rarely. But it would be a 'nice to have' if it were just built in.

[Quoth]

Docks were a common bedside accessory for the iPhone.