if you don't read library ebooks , why not?

[issybird]

Originally Posted by andyh2000

The library systems could give the authors the same amount of money per loan but allow many simultaneous loans?

I know. But it would mean fewer books sold directly to readers, for the reason stated here. I don't think ebooks and paper books are the same thing and the same rules don't necessarily apply, but in this case I get the analogy. The same deterrent to borrowing paper books, long waitlists, must be mighty tempting!

And no matter what, I'll never be persuaded that the alternative to artificial scarcity, piracy, is a moral option.

[Cactus Chef]

For me, it's mostly the fact that all the books I wanna read have a Waiting List, and so when the book finally becomes available, it's like I'm not under a time crunch to either finish what I'm currently reading or drop it to read the thing that I was waiting to check out.

I don't think I used to have this problem when I was physically checking books out from a library. I think it might be a consequence of Overdrive's digital lending causing the average wait time for a book to be over six weeks, as opposed to like a week when I was checking out books from a small-town library.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by issybird

We don't view piracy as a benign activity here; please don't present it as such.

From what I got, that user wasn't presenting it as benign. They used to do bad stuff and saw the light. Though maybe I misread it.

[JSWolf]

The problem (as I see it) is that you get 21-days to finish an eBook. Most people don't return an eBook if they've finished before the 21-days and it just sits there waiting to expire. Overdrive should make people learn about early returns when they first sign into Overdrive.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

From what I got, that user wasn't presenting it as benign. They used to do bad stuff and saw the light. Though maybe I misread it.

I got the same impression. Used to pirate but no longer.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem (as I see it) is that you get 21-days to finish an eBook. Most people don't return an eBook if they've finished before the 21-days and it just sits there waiting to expire. Overdrive should make people learn about early returns when they first sign into Overdrive.

As soon as you turn the last page of a book in Libby, there's a bold prompt "Return Loan to Library". Tapping that is the easiest route back to your Shelf.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by meeera

As soon as you turn the last page of a book in Libby, there's a bold prompt "Return Loan to Library". Tapping that is the easiest route back to your Shelf.

Ditto on Kobo ereaders where finishing a library book give you a Return early popup. Tap on it, wait for the preview to finish downloading and it's done.

[kyrilson]

Originally Posted by issybird

How the heck are the rights' holders going to get paid otherwise? The "piracy model" you engaged in is dishonest. We don't view piracy as a benign activity here; please don't present it as such.

Your reading comprehension seems to have missed that he USED to pirate but doesn't anymore:
"I used to pirate the majority of my ebooks, but have since started using ebooks.com, globalgreyebooks.com, and standardebooks.org."

[neil_swann80]

Libraries are essentially "I can't believe it's not piracy".

Is it really moral to check out a library book if you can afford to buy it?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by kyrilson

Your reading comprehension seems to have missed that he USED to pirate but doesn't anymore:
"I used to pirate the majority of my ebooks, but have since started using ebooks.com, globalgreyebooks.com, and standardebooks.org."

Hmm... that post does not say that they no longer pirate any ebooks. What it does say is that they no longer pirate the majority of them. That could easily be parsed to mean that where they once pirated 10 books for every one legally obtained, they now now pirate 4 ebooks for every 10 legally obtained. It could mean that they no longer pirate any ebooks but that is not what was stated.

[kyrilson]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Hmm... that post does not say that they no longer pirate any ebooks. What it does say is that they no longer pirate the majority of them. That could easily be parsed to mean that where they once pirated 10 books for every one legally obtained, they now now pirate 4 ebooks for every 10 legally obtained. It could mean that they no longer pirate any ebooks but that is not what was stated.

You're right! I guess MY reading comprehension should be improved.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by neil_swann80

Is it really moral to check out a library book if you can afford to buy it?

They're not free. You pay taxes to support your local library, who (I believe) pay royalties to author. (At least I think that's the way it works. I hope authors get paid something when eBooks are borrowed from the library.)

[Apache]

Originally Posted by rcentros

They're not free. You pay taxes to support your local library, who (I believe) pay royalties to author. (At least I think that's the way it works. I hope authors get paid something when eBooks are borrowed from the library.)

Libraries do not pay the authors royalties. Royalties are paid to the author by the publisher.
Apache

[John F]

Originally Posted by rcentros

They're not free. You pay taxes to support your local library, who (I believe) pay royalties to author. (At least I think that's the way it works. I hope authors get paid something when eBooks are borrowed from the library.)

And some purchase a library card.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Apache

Libraries do not pay the authors royalties. Royalties are paid to the author by the publisher.
Apache

I believe in some locales (U.K.), the authors do get paid per checkout.

In the U.S., I believe that for the big publishers, the libraries purchase a license (which the the author may get some percent) with a set number of checkouts. I don't believe the author gets anything for each checkout, they may get something when a license is purchased.