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ZodWallop · 05-30-2023, 09:35 AM

Just listened to a podcast that is relevant. The Daily, from The New York Times: The Godfather of A.I. Has Some Regrets

Quote:

As the world begins to experiment with the power of artificial intelligence, a debate has begun about how to contain its risks. One of the sharpest and most urgent warnings has come from a man who helped invent the technology.

Cade Metz, a technology correspondent for The New York Times, speaks to Geoffrey Hinton, whom many consider to be the godfather of A.I.

Apache · 06-23-2023, 08:45 AM

And Now: Lawyers submitted bogus case law created by ChatGPT.
https://www.kcra.com/article/lawyers...tgpt/44308840#
Apache

Hitch · 06-23-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache

And Now: Lawyers submitted bogus case law created by ChatGPT.
https://www.kcra.com/article/lawyers...tgpt/44308840#
Apache

Yes, I read about that a few days (weeks?) back. nasty!

Hitch

Apache · 06-23-2023, 07:06 PM

And stupid for the lawyers to think they could get away with it, especially the first time the judge called them on it.

Apache

DNSB · 06-23-2023, 09:47 PM

From what I read into the story, it was the same episode. They did not attempt to get away with it a second time, the judge simply decided that stupidity deserves a negative reward.

Apache · 06-24-2023, 09:21 AM

Yes. it was the same episode. I meant that they seemed to think they could lie to the judge and continued to stand by the fake opinions after judicial orders called their existence into question.
Apache

DNSB · 07-03-2023, 11:46 AM

Ran into this article. Taking a look at Amazon today, it appears to be spot on.

Amazon’s ebook charts are full of AI-generated spam

Amazon.ca:
URGENT CHARACTER NAME

Comfy.n · 07-03-2023, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Ran into this article. Taking a look at Amazon today, it appears to be spot on.

Amazon’s ebook charts are full of AI-generated spam

Amazon.ca:
URGENT CHARACTER NAME

looks like a trend is forming, reflecting a similar phenomenum that happened with Youtube through trashy videos made by text-to-speech bots

Critteranne · 07-03-2023, 03:15 PM

The latest Genre Grapevine by Jason Sanford is a special issue called Genre Grapevine on Why They Want Us to Call it AI. It is worth a read.

In it, he links to an article in IEEE Spectrum by Michael I. Jordan, a pioneer in machine learning called Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says. He is an IEEE Fellow and an authority on machine learning. Yeah, I think we can call this guy an expert.

Jordan points out that "the underlying systems do not involve high-level reasoning or thought." (Note: IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and also includes the IEEE Computer Society.)

DiapDealer · 07-03-2023, 04:29 PM

The horse has left the barn on how the term AI is going to used. Get used to it, or get used to being called the pedant in the room.

Hitch · 07-03-2023, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The horse has left the barn on how the term AI is going to used. Get used to it, or get used to being called the pedant in the room.

I've seen all these "horrible examples" and so-called proof of the advent of AI....for the last nearly-15 years. Am I a time-traveller? Was AI affecting what was being published, in 2010, 11 and 12? Because there ain't nuthin' new to see here.

As you will all recall, I came in mainly on the commercial side, way back, from the jump. So, I've seen...well, I've seen it all. I have the Thousand-Word stare. The Cover Design Cringe...yup, all.

The books that get pointed out to me, as "proof" that something is AI--those are laughable. They aren't one iota different than the dreadful, badly translated (Yes, I'm lookin' at you, Google) books of poetry, etc. that we've all been looking at since PG tried to pull its head back into the burrow, all those years ago.

SSDD. Has nothing to do with AI. God save us all, if AI had written them, they'd be dramatically BETTER.

Hitch

DiapDealer · 07-03-2023, 07:07 PM

So you're the pedant in the room, then?

Hitch · 07-03-2023, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

So you're the pedant in the room, then?

Well, wait, is that a new thought to you????

Hitch

DiapDealer · 07-03-2023, 07:39 PM

Just checking.

Hitch · 07-04-2023, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Just checking.

I'm happy to reassure you that all's right in the world, but you have naught over which to fret--after all, Jon's still here, even if I kick the bucket. :-)

Hitch

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06-23-2023, 08:45 AM	#197
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,282 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	And Now: Lawyers submitted bogus case law created by ChatGPT. https://www.kcra.com/article/lawyers...tgpt/44308840# Apache

06-23-2023, 07:06 PM	#199
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,282 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	And stupid for the lawyers to think they could get away with it, especially the first time the judge called them on it. Apache

06-23-2023, 09:47 PM	#200
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,681 Karma: 169712392 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	From what I read into the story, it was the same episode. They did not attempt to get away with it a second time, the judge simply decided that stupidity deserves a negative reward.

06-24-2023, 09:21 AM	#201
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,282 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	Yes. it was the same episode. I meant that they seemed to think they could lie to the judge and continued to stand by the fake opinions after judicial orders called their existence into question. Apache

07-03-2023, 11:46 AM	#202
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,681 Karma: 169712392 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Ran into this article. Taking a look at Amazon today, it appears to be spot on. Amazon’s ebook charts are full of AI-generated spam Amazon.ca: URGENT CHARACTER NAME

07-03-2023, 03:15 PM	#204
Critteranne Guru Posts: 810 Karma: 23183490 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: MD Device: Kindle, iPad	The latest Genre Grapevine by Jason Sanford is a special issue called Genre Grapevine on Why They Want Us to Call it AI. It is worth a read. In it, he links to an article in IEEE Spectrum by Michael I. Jordan, a pioneer in machine learning called Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says. He is an IEEE Fellow and an authority on machine learning. Yeah, I think we can call this guy an expert. Jordan points out that "the underlying systems do not involve high-level reasoning or thought." (Note: IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and also includes the IEEE Computer Society.)

07-03-2023, 04:29 PM	#205
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,657 Karma: 205039118 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	The horse has left the barn on how the term AI is going to used. Get used to it, or get used to being called the pedant in the room.

07-03-2023, 07:39 PM	#209
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,657 Karma: 205039118 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Just checking.