deleted files no longer in trash but .caltrash

manjade · 04-29-2023, 04:26 AM

Hello,
I am new here so sorry if this has been talked about already - I couldn't find anything.
Originally when using calibre, when I deleted a file it was be sent to the system trash/bin (which is great if you accidentally delete something and you can just drag it out again)
Now when I delete a file, it just disappears.
Or so I thought.
I have since discovered all the deleted files are not deleted but moved to:
calibre library/.caltrash (which is a hidden folder on mac)
Is there any way of changing this so that the files actually get sent to the system trash and are removed completely rather than being hidden in a folder?
thanks very much
M

kovidgoyal · 04-29-2023, 04:46 AM

That's by design see the whats-new page https://calibre-ebook.com/whats-new

BetterRed · 04-29-2023, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manjade

Hello,
I am new here so sorry if this has been talked about already - I couldn't find anything.
Originally when using calibre, when I deleted a file it was be sent to the system trash/bin (which is great if you accidentally delete something and you can just drag it out again)
Now when I delete a file, it just disappears.
Or so I thought.
I have since discovered all the deleted files are not deleted but moved to:
calibre library/.caltrash (which is a hidden folder on mac)
Is there any way of changing this so that the files actually get sent to the system trash and are removed completely rather than being hidden in a folder?
thanks very much
M

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kpjgpm · 05-19-2023, 10:44 AM

Can we delete them either inside Calibre or outside in the file browser?

theducks · 05-19-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kpjgpm

Can we delete them either inside Calibre or outside in the file browser?

Yes.

Right click the Delete Icon:Restore recently deleted books.
Now you can manage those being held

DNSB · 05-19-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kpjgpm

Can we delete them either inside Calibre or outside in the file browser?

As usual, do not use system tools to add, delete, whatever in the calibre library. It is Not a Good Idea unless you enjoy repairing inconsistent databases.

Quoth · 05-19-2023, 03:28 PM

The system trash never worked to restore a file to Calibre. You had to "add" them, because the system trash only had the file and not the metadata.

Chrystalline · 05-20-2023, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Right click the Delete Icon:Restore recently deleted books.
Now you can manage those being held

Thank you for that. I've been fruitlessly searching for a way to clear that since I noticed the files weren't going to the Windows Recycle Bin anymore. I will say I find it counter-intuitive to select Restore when I really want to Empty Recycle Bin. Perhaps re-labeling as Open Recycle Bin or Open Calibre Trash would be more clear?

lostinlodos · 05-22-2023, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrystalline

Thank you for that. I've been fruitlessly searching for a way to clear that since I noticed the files weren't going to the Windows Recycle Bin anymore. ...

Not sure what the logic is here!
I got a response asking if it was a bug that there was no way to disable this... I won't call it a feature as it's just a terrible idea; the response was there is NO WAY to disable it.

I was also informed that OS trash/recycle was "unreliable" which I'm laughing and laughing and laughing at. What???

If they would do something slightly logical with this, add an EMPTY option to the new icon. Which EVERY pre-delete storage method has had in history.

Terisa de morgan · 05-22-2023, 06:34 AM

Like this?

Quoth · 05-22-2023, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lostinlodos

I was also informed that OS trash/recycle was "unreliable" which I'm laughing and laughing and laughing at. What???

It is, and "restore" from system trash will fail on Mac, Windows and Linux because the Database won't know and the metadata will be missing. You had to "Add" the book from the trash as if it was in a download folder.

ownedbycats · 05-22-2023, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

It is, and "restore" from system trash will fail on Mac, Windows and Linux because the Database won't know and the metadata will be missing. You had to "Add" the book from the trash as if it was in a download folder.

On Windows, you have to copy it out of the trash and then add it.

BetterRed · 05-22-2023, 07:00 PM

It puzzles me that anyone would complain about a 'Restore recently deleted [books]' option in the 'Remove books' menu that does what's written on the tin. Especially since for the past 10-15 years it required the jumping of hoops to achieve the same result.

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Originally Posted by ownedbycats

On Windows, you have to copy it out of the trash and then add it.

AFAIK, you can't copy an item out of the Windows 10 Recycle bin, you can Restore them, which is a Move to the location from whence they came, or less obviously Move them to another location.

BR

Karellen · 05-22-2023, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BetterRed

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Oh, wow. I never knew about this.
Thanks!!

ownedbycats · 05-22-2023, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BetterRed

AFAIK, you can't copy an item out of the Windows 10 Recycle bin, you can Restore them, which is a Move to the location from whence they came, or less obviously Move them to another location.

BR

No, you can. 'Cut' option.

04-29-2023, 04:26 AM	#1
manjade Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2023 Device: KOBO 2E	deleted files no longer in trash but .caltrash Hello, I am new here so sorry if this has been talked about already - I couldn't find anything. Originally when using calibre, when I deleted a file it was be sent to the system trash/bin (which is great if you accidentally delete something and you can just drag it out again) Now when I delete a file, it just disappears. Or so I thought. I have since discovered all the deleted files are not deleted but moved to: calibre library/.caltrash (which is a hidden folder on mac) Is there any way of changing this so that the files actually get sent to the system trash and are removed completely rather than being hidden in a folder? thanks very much M

05-19-2023, 10:44 AM	#4
kpjgpm Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Device: iPad & Nook	.caltrash files Can we delete them either inside Calibre or outside in the file browser?

05-22-2023, 06:34 AM	#10
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kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	That's by design see the whats-new page https://calibre-ebook.com/whats-new

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