The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 179

LazyScot · 04-17-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Why does my company, a software publisher insist on making us use these OLD PCs... for development. Yes, old as in 4years plus. Sitting and waiting for a build to run for 45minutes when I know on a PC of today it would run in under 5 minutes.

It is just sooooooooooooooooooo frustrating!!!

ARGH (some swears here if you are into that)

Do they really think they are SAVING money? FAIL!!!

BOb

(The following is not getting at you BOb....!)

Why on earth don't all software developers and testers (at the very least of a certain, well known company) have to use ridiculously old computers. I fail to understand why it takes so long on PCs running their software. Same hardware, booted into any of a range of Linux distros does almost all the same operations in a tiny fraction of the time. Now if they had to use aged, slow computers they would have a reason for spending time making the software run faster, rather than ensuring that the software requires n-quillion BluRay's for their distribution.

And whilst I'm at it, why don't they use proper compilers... First off, their language is just different enough to break things if you try porting. Next they invariably result in programs that run far slower. And then they pack it all up in an annoying development environment that they update in a non-compatible form every year or two. Any why the heck do they need such huge intermediary files..........

pilotbob · 04-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LazyScot

Why on earth don't all software developers and testers (at the very least of a certain, well known company) have to use ridiculously old computers. I fail to understand why it takes so long on PCs running their software.

Now that is a valid but entirely different issue. We do run our software on older computers to do performance metrics. Something that shows up on a slower machine that won't on a fast machine.

But, when I am building and compiling the software and running automated functional tests I need to fastest that I can have so I am more productive. If I have to wait 5,10,20 minutes during each edit/compile/build cycle I can't be very productive. Also, profiling on a faster machine runs alot faster, but I can still see if a loop or something is taking a high percentage of time relatively I know where I need to optimize.

That said, today's customers demand applications that are very graphic and network and hard drive intense. They don't want to do "batch" processing they want it to happen now. Many times the answer is, get a faster machine.

Back to my rant... I am not talking about some $3000 PC these days. Your basic off the shelf $500-$800 PC with a Core 2 Duo 2.66+Ghz machine with a 500GB 7200RPM 3Gbs SATA hard drive is more than enough for the work I am talking about.

The machine I am ranting about is a P4 1.7GHz with 512MB of RAM running Windows 2000 Workstation. Really? There is no need for this PC to be plugged in... except that they don't give us something better.

BOb

zelda_pinwheel · 04-17-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

The machine I am ranting about is a P4 1.7GHz with 512MB of RAM running Windows 2000 Workstation. Really? There is no need for this PC to be plugged in... except that they don't give us something better.

BOb

ouch.

i would rant too.

pilotbob · 04-17-2009, 08:04 PM

DRM RANT RANT....

SOFTWARE COPY PROTECTION RANT....

Argh.... I hate being treated like a criminal by these places. See my DRM rant on my Blog.... no not about ebooks... but the same things apply.

http://bob.archer.net/content/drmed-...y-list-join-me

BOb

pshrynk · 04-17-2009, 08:52 PM

For some reason I keep putting that rant in the accent of that British comedian who dresses in drag and whose name escapes me and whom I can't Asakte because I'm on my mobile right now.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 04-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

For some reason I keep putting that rant in the accent of that British comedian who dresses in drag and whose name escapes me and whom I can't Asakte because I'm on my mobile right now.

Eddie Izzard?

pshrynk · 04-17-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Eddie Izzard?

Thank you! That was driving me nuts!

pshrynk · 04-17-2009, 08:59 PM

Well, nutser.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 04-17-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Thank you! That was driving me nuts!

Anytime

(That'll be a $300 credit with the laddy at the door, thanks

)

Wetdogeared · 04-17-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Thank you! That was driving me nuts!

That sounds like the perfect sig line.

WDE.

slayda · 04-17-2009, 09:21 PM

Don't let things drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

pilotbob · 04-17-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slayda

Don't let things drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

Walking distance... crazy lives right next store. I could fall over the line.

BOb

zelda_pinwheel · 04-18-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Walking distance... crazy lives right next store. I could fall over the line.

BOb

me too.

RickyMaveety · 04-18-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Eddie Izzard?

My personal god!!

pilotbob · 04-18-2009, 01:58 PM

Damn... subversion takes a long time to dump a repository. Damn part duex that dump file is about 3x the size of the repository. I thought this upgrade would only take about 10 minutes.

At least I can do other things while it is dumping.

BOb

(Oh and this is on a fast dual core 3GHz Xenon server. Not that old PC I was venting about yesterday.)

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04-17-2009, 08:04 PM	#2674
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	DRM RANT RANT.... SOFTWARE COPY PROTECTION RANT.... Argh.... I hate being treated like a criminal by these places. See my DRM rant on my Blog.... no not about ebooks... but the same things apply. http://bob.archer.net/content/drmed-...y-list-join-me BOb

04-17-2009, 08:52 PM	#2675
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	For some reason I keep putting that rant in the accent of that British comedian who dresses in drag and whose name escapes me and whom I can't Asakte because I'm on my mobile right now.

04-17-2009, 08:59 PM	#2678
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Well, nutser.

04-17-2009, 09:21 PM	#2681
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	Don't let things drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

04-18-2009, 01:58 PM	#2685
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Damn... subversion takes a long time to dump a repository. Damn part duex that dump file is about 3x the size of the repository. I thought this upgrade would only take about 10 minutes. At least I can do other things while it is dumping. BOb (Oh and this is on a fast dual core 3GHz Xenon server. Not that old PC I was venting about yesterday.)