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Old 04-29-2023, 06:14 AM   #196
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Well, most of those will be shut off anyway when 3G is dropped in the US. Amazon needs to do this so they have no excuse to play stupid games with hi-res graphics.
Some do USA 4G (all at least since Oasis gen 2), so ending 3G won't work.
Also the USA is less than 13% of world population. Other places have GSM/EDGE and 3G and few are turning off both. Most if not all "International 3G" Kindles do GSM and EDGE also. New smart utility meters, depending on country and utility, often use GSM/EDGE and/or 3G, none seem to have 4G or 5G.
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:52 AM   #197
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Some do USA 4G (all at least since Oasis gen 2), so ending 3G won't work.
Also the USA is less than 13% of world population. Other places have GSM/EDGE and 3G and few are turning off both. Most if not all "International 3G" Kindles do GSM and EDGE also. New smart utility meters, depending on country and utility, often use GSM/EDGE and/or 3G, none seem to have 4G or 5G.
But the ones that do 4G also do WiFi. So it's not that much of an issue to drop the cell service.
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Old 04-29-2023, 02:54 PM   #198
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Ah, Canada's Mighty Rodgers. But in USA there might have been only one or two small operators with GSM.
As far as I am aware, of the USA major carriers, Verizon, US Cellular, and Sprint (now owned by T-Mobile) used CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile used GSM. So I would hardly state that only one or two small operators used GSM.

Just BTW, the name is Rogers as I wrote and not Rodgers.
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As far as I am aware, of the USA major carriers, Verizon, US Cellular, and Sprint (now owned by T-Mobile) used CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile used GSM. So I would hardly state that only one or two small operators used GSM.

Just BTW, the name is Rogers as I wrote and not Rodgers.
My bad typo.

AT&T already shut down its 2G GSM some time before any 3G in USA closed. Though Sprint was bought by T-Mobile it never used GSM.
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But the ones that do 4G also do WiFi. So it's not that much of an issue to drop the cell service.
WiFi only is an alternate to Mobile/Cell in a few city places and unsafe.
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WiFi only is an alternate to Mobile/Cell in a few city places and unsafe.
Unsafe? What is going to happen to a Kindle if it is exposed to a malicious wifi?
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WiFi only is an alternate to Mobile/Cell in a few city places and unsafe.
How is home or work WiFi unsafe?

Besides, if anyone wants cell service, just setup a hotspot for the Kindle. I can do it no problem (if I wanted which I don't).
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How is home or work WiFi unsafe?
Public.
Also not everyone has home WiFi or allowed to use Work WIFi for own gadgets.

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Besides, if anyone wants cell service, just setup a hotspot for the Kindle. I can do it no problem (if I wanted which I don't).
Beyond the ken of many that paid extra for cell modem in a Kindle.
Hence Wifi points fed by Mobile with a SIM are a real product. Expensive.
Not everyone has data tariffs.

I'll be surprised if Amazon switch off the Cell service inside next five years and even if they did, they'll not remove delivery charges because why should they with over 90% of the English Language eBook market worldwide.

What we'd like and what's realistically going to happen often have no relationship.
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…they'll not remove delivery charges because why should they with over 90% of the English Language eBook market worldwide.
As it stands Amazon can claim that they pay a 70% royalty for Kindle ebooks when the reality is they actually pay far less because of delivery charges. I see no incentive for them to change that.
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As it stands Amazon can claim that they pay a 70% royalty for Kindle ebooks when the reality is they actually pay far less because of delivery charges. I see no incentive for them to change that.
Yes, I think this is a key insight.
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