Dealing with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.19 and KFX in calibre

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by odamizu

I'll keep an eye on my K4Mac (which has the Amazon download version of 1.40) and check the App Store at the end of the month to see if a new version is offered.

It looks like Amazon is getting closer to releasing a new version of the Kindle for Mac app. Looking at internals I see the following text:

Support for this app is ending on May 31, 2023

Get the new Kindle for Mac from the App Store to read with the latest Kindle features for Mac, explore millions of Kindle books, and receive regular app updates.

In the new Kindle for Mac, you will be able to copy over your local collections from this app's library, and sync them to the cloud to enable editing. All collections you create in the new Kindle for Mac will automatically sync to the cloud.

Copying local collections to the new app will not copy personal documents that you manually imported into this app. Import personal documents using Send to Kindle to read them in the new app.

Note that the date has changed to something more reasonable. It still has a link to this app as the "new Kindle for Mac".

[Mattyredsox]

Hi All... newbie to the forum, but kindle owner since the first generation.
I just upgraded my daughter's Kindle (she had one of my ancient ones, a first generation) - today she got a new Paperwhite as a reward for completing her RAZ-Kids reading program (she's a ten year old).
She reads English (primarily), French (we live just outside Geneva), and Japanese (my wife is Japanese, and my daughter grew up bilingual).
I was hoping to be able to use her Kindle through my US amazon account, and then download content from Amazon.jp (Japan) from my other account. I have seen a few websites that detailed this as well as some Youtube videos.
I have Calibre on my MacBook (IOS Big Sur 11.1), and have added the various plug ins, and it seems as if I've done everything correctly.
Thee problem is the Kindle reader, I know that the current ones will not allow me to download the books from amazon to my laptop, and I've added what appears to be the version formerly recommended - Kindle App 1.17; I've also tried a few others, but none will work on my laptop.
How is the best way to get those books from Amazon.jp converted? I've read through many pages of this thread, and I think I'm in the right place for this info, but I can't seem to get it done. Suggestions?
Thank you!

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Mattyredsox

Spoiler:

Hi All... newbie to the forum, but kindle owner since the first generation.
I just upgraded my daughter's Kindle (she had one of my ancient ones, a first generation) - today she got a new Paperwhite as a reward for completing her RAZ-Kids reading program (she's a ten year old).
She reads English (primarily), French (we live just outside Geneva), and Japanese (my wife is Japanese, and my daughter grew up bilingual).
I was hoping to be able to use her Kindle through my US amazon account, and then download content from Amazon.jp (Japan) from my other account. I have seen a few websites that detailed this as well as some Youtube videos.
I have Calibre on my MacBook (IOS Big Sur 11.1), and have added the various plug ins, and it seems as if I've done everything correctly.
Thee problem is the Kindle reader, I know that the current ones will not allow me to download the books from amazon to my laptop, and I've added what appears to be the version formerly recommended - Kindle App 1.17; I've also tried a few others, but none will work on my laptop.
How is the best way to get those books from Amazon.jp converted? I've read through many pages of this thread, and I think I'm in the right place for this info, but I can't seem to get it done. Suggestions?
Thank you!

The simplest way is to use the Download and Transfer option on the Amazon Content and Devices page to download the files to your computer. Note that this doesn't mean downloading them to the Kindle. A registered Kindle is just used as the target device, downloading takes place on the computer.

Kindle App 1.17 is useless for all books published in 2023. It can only be used for books published before January 3, 2023.

[odamizu]

Originally Posted by jhowell

It looks like Amazon is getting closer to releasing a new version [1.40.65604] of the Kindle for Mac app ...

Thanks for the info. I currently have the Amazon download version 1.40.0-65466 installed with auto-updates turned off. I'll let you know what notices or updates pop up, or if there's a forced update.

The Apple App Store currently offers 1.40 released "1 week ago", but does not specify more granularity than that. I don't want to download that and have it replace my Amazon-downloaded version as I want to see what happens to the Amazon-download version. I'll try to remember to check the App Store periodically to see if a new version is released. One advantage of the App Store version is I don't believe Kindle can force an update if the user turns off auto-updates in the App Store settings.

[Mattyredsox]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

The simplest way is to use the Download and Transfer option on the Amazon Content and Devices page to download the files to your computer. Note that this doesn't mean downloading them to the Kindle. A registered Kindle is just used as the target device, downloading takes place on the computer.
Kindle App 1.17 is useless for all books published in 2023. It can only be used for books published before January 3, 2023.

Will this work with two separate accounts? My amazon.jp account is separate from my amazon.com account, as they are have two separate addresses. I don't want to lose the books from the US account.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Mattyredsox

Will this work with two separate accounts? My amazon.jp account is separate from my amazon.com account, as they are have two separate addresses. I don't want to lose the books from the US account.

Yes, but you must have at least one eink Kindle registered to the account to use the Download & Transfer option. And of course, to be able to read the books from one account on the Kindle registered to the other account, you must remove the DRM.

[Mattyredsox]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Yes, but you must have at least one eink Kindle registered to the account to use the Download & Transfer option. And of course, to be able to read the books from one account on the Kindle registered to the other account, you must remove the DRM.

Thanks.

So unless I want to dedicate one of the Kindles to the Japan Amazon (and later the French Amazon), I'm out of luck.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Mattyredsox

Thanks.

So unless I want to dedicate one of the Kindles to the Japan Amazon (and later the French Amazon), I'm out of luck.

Well, there is the loophole of using an old Kindle for Android in the Bluestacks emulator.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=352278

But who knows how long that will work. Otherwise, yes, the only options are using Download & Transfer (need an eink Kindle for this) or using an old eink Kindle ("old" meaning before 2012) to pull the files directly from it.

[PraetorXyn]

So... I bought a Kindle Oasis to use the Download and Transfer option for a book published after January 3 2023. I was able to import it into Calibre without issue, but when I try to convert it, it tells me it's locked by DRM. I've been using the DeDRM Tools with Calibre and older versions of the Kindle app for years.... so does this method require something different? My understanding was that the DRM would be stripped so long as you import the book on the same machine it was downloaded on.

That was a pitfall for me at first, as I run a Dockerized instance of Calibre on my NAS, and the DeDRM Tools wouldn't work when I downloaded them to my Desktop and imported them from the NAS.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by PraetorXyn

So... I bought a Kindle Oasis to use the Download and Transfer option for a book published after January 3 2023. I was able to import it into Calibre without issue, but when I try to convert it, it tells me it's locked by DRM. I've been using the DeDRM Tools with Calibre and older versions of the Kindle app for years.... so does this method require something different? My understanding was that the DRM would be stripped so long as you import the book on the same machine it was downloaded on.

That was a pitfall for me at first, as I run a Dockerized instance of Calibre on my NAS, and the DeDRM Tools wouldn't work when I downloaded them to my Desktop and imported them from the NAS.

You did spend a lot of money just to be able to download new Kindle eBooks.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by PraetorXyn

So... I bought a Kindle Oasis to use the Download and Transfer option for a book published after January 3 2023. I was able to import it into Calibre without issue, but when I try to convert it, it tells me it's locked by DRM. I've been using the DeDRM Tools with Calibre and older versions of the Kindle app for years.... so does this method require something different? My understanding was that the DRM would be stripped so long as you import the book on the same machine it was downloaded on.

That was a pitfall for me at first, as I run a Dockerized instance of Calibre on my NAS, and the DeDRM Tools wouldn't work when I downloaded them to my Desktop and imported them from the NAS.

You don't use the Kindle, only it's serial number (can be copy/pasted from your Amazon account) in the plug-in. Then you download for USB transfer from the Amazon page of your content and import those files into Calibre. The Kindle can sit in a drawer and rot once you register.

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by odamizu

Thanks for the info. I currently have the Amazon download version 1.40.0-65466 installed with auto-updates turned off. I'll let you know what notices or updates pop up, or if there's a forced update.

The Download for PC & Mac button on the Free Kindle Apps page is now delivering a new version of Kindle for Mac, build 65626.

[odamizu]

Originally Posted by jhowell

The Download for PC & Mac button on the Free Kindle Apps page is now delivering a new version of Kindle for Mac, build 65626.

Thanks for the heads-up. I went and opened my Kindle for Mac app and got a pop-up notifying me of a new version: 1.40.1 (65626). No forced update. I clicked whatever the affirmative was. The "What's New" pop-up simply offers the very unhelpful: "This update includes stability improvements and bug fixes." A quick look around and I'm not seeing any changes.

@jhowell: Anything in particular you'd like me to check?

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by odamizu

Thanks for the heads-up. I went and opened my Kindle for Mac app and got a pop-up notifying me of a new version: 1.40.1 (65626). No forced update. I clicked whatever the affirmative was. The "What's New" pop-up simply offers the very unhelpful: "This update includes stability improvements and bug fixes." A quick look around and I'm not seeing any changes.

@jhowell: Anything in particular you'd like me to check?

Nothing else. I was wondering whether the deprecation messages I saw in the internals of the program would appear. That seems not to be the case.

[odamizu]

Originally Posted by jhowell

Nothing else. I was wondering whether the deprecation messages I saw in the internals of the program would appear. That seems not to be the case.

I was wondering the same thing and was rather expecting to see some sort of alert, but nada. Perhaps it's on a timer and will pop up in a few weeks?