Does this exist?

neighner · 03-09-2023, 02:31 PM

I bought a Kindle Paperwhite. I do not like the flush screen. So I got a Kobo Libra 2 instead only to find out that Scribd will not work on it. And Kobo doesn’t have their subscription service in the U.S. yet. I want a service that has both ebooks and audiobooks. And I would like a 7” or greater *sunken* screen e-reader. Suggestions?

JSWolf · 03-09-2023, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neighner

I bought a Kindle Paperwhite. I do not like the flush screen. So I got a Kobo Libra 2 instead only to find out that Scribd will not work on it. And Kobo doesn’t have their subscription service in the U.S. yet. I want a service that has both ebooks and audiobooks. And I would like a 7” or greater *sunken* screen e-reader. Suggestions?

You can get a subscription for audiobooks at Kobo. You can listen to audiobooks from Kobo on a Libra 2.

Kobo Plus is the only subscription service that I know of that has both eBooks and audiobooks. Even Kindle Unlimited does not support audiobooks.

Buying a different Reader won't help. Kobo is your best choice for now.

salamanderjuice · 03-09-2023, 03:21 PM

Why the preference for sunken screen? Your best bet is an Android model because then you can just use the Android app for Scribd or whatever you want. The Boox Leaf 2 is a pretty similar form factor the the Libra 2. Meebook P78 is another device to look at. They don't have sunken screens though but AFAIK no Android reader bigger than 6" you can buy does so you may have to pick your poison.

neighner · 03-09-2023, 03:22 PM

Kobo does not have the subscription service available to people in the U.S. Kindle Unlimited does have audiobooks. Not as many as Audible though.

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You can get a subscription for audiobooks at Kobo. You can listen to audiobooks from Kobo on a Libra 2.

Kobo Plus is the only subscription service that I know of that has both eBooks and audiobooks. Even Kindle Unlimited does not support audiobooks.

Buying a different Reader won't help. Kobo is your best choice for now.

neighner · 03-09-2023, 03:26 PM

With the sunken screen you do not have a piece of glass between you and the words. Without the glass it is clearer. Yes, with the glass it is ok. But, I would prefer it to not be flush if possible. Are these android models e-ink or just a normal tablet screen like an iPad?

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Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

Why the preference for sunken screen? Your best bet is an Android model because then you can just use the Android app for Scribd or whatever you want. The Boox Leaf 2 is a pretty similar form factor the the Libra 2. Meebook P78 is another device to look at. They don't have sunken screens though but AFAIK no Android reader bigger than 6" you can buy does so you may have to pick your poison.

Sirtel · 03-09-2023, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by neighner

Are these android models e-ink or just a normal tablet screen like an iPad?

Yes, they're e-ink.

neighner · 03-09-2023, 06:42 PM

Thank you for the suggestion of the Boox Leaf 2! The white version has a sunken screen.

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Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

Why the preference for sunken screen? Your best bet is an Android model because then you can just use the Android app for Scribd or whatever you want. The Boox Leaf 2 is a pretty similar form factor the the Libra 2. Meebook P78 is another device to look at. They don't have sunken screens though but AFAIK no Android reader bigger than 6" you can buy does so you may have to pick your poison.

DNSB · 03-09-2023, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by neighner

With the sunken screen you do not have a piece of glass between you and the words. Without the glass it is clearer. Yes, with the glass it is ok. But, I would prefer it to not be flush if possible. Are these android models e-ink or just a normal tablet screen like an iPad?

Since IR touch ereaders went the way of the dodo, about the only difference between the sunken and the flush mount screen is the case design. Not to mention that with current eInk screens, you have the protective film, the front light guide, the touch screen layer and the transparent front electrode layer between you and the micro-capsules that make up the display.

twowheels · 03-09-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Since IR touch ereaders went the way of the dodo, about the only difference between the sunken and the flush mount screen is the case design. Not to mention that with current eInk screens, you have the protective film, the front light guide, the touch screen layer and the transparent front electrode layer between you and the micro-capsules that make up the display.

I miss the super clarity of the older readers — I’d love to have an IR based touchscreen again. When I pick up my wife’s Kindle 3 I sometimes lament how we lost some of the benefits — the improvements of the new ones outweigh what we’ve lost, but I feel like some combination of old and new would be far superior.

Sirtel · 03-09-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by twowheels

I miss the super clarity of the older readers — I’d love to have an IR based touchscreen again. When I pick up my wife’s Kindle 3 I sometimes lament how we lost some of the benefits — the improvements of the new ones outweigh what we’ve lost, but I feel like some combination of old and new would be far superior.

Dunno. My current Kobos sure have better contrast than those oldies (I compare them to my old, non-touch ereaders occasionally. Well, their display is miles better than that of the seniors, no comparison there). And the one IR display I had - 2014 basic Kindle - was pretty meh.

ottischwenk · 03-10-2023, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by neighner

With the sunken screen you do not have a piece of glass between you and the words. Without the glass it is clearer. Yes, with the glass it is ok. But, I would prefer it to not be flush if possible. Are these android models e-ink or just a normal tablet screen like an iPad?

The difference is best noticed when the devices are next to each other.
And the devices mentioned are EInk tablets

JSWolf · 03-10-2023, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Since IR touch ereaders went the way of the dodo, about the only difference between the sunken and the flush mount screen is the case design. Not to mention that with current eInk screens, you have the protective film, the front light guide, the touch screen layer and the transparent front electrode layer between you and the micro-capsules that make up the display.

There can be more of a difference. Look at the PW3 vs the PW4. Making the PW4 flush caused it to be less sharp and clear (muddy) then the PW3. But that was fixed with the PW5. It all depends on how the flush screen Reader is made. With the sunken screen, all the layers are closer together and will look good (aka Libra 2).

Sirtel · 03-10-2023, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

With the sunken screen, all the layers are closer together and will look good (aka Libra 2).

Not always. The Libra 1 had a sunken screen too, but the display was pretty meh.

ottischwenk · 03-10-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

It all depends on how the flush screen Reader is made. With the sunken screen, all the layers are closer together and will look good (aka Libra 2).

No - the biggest problem is the light guide.
My Leaf 2 (flat screen) has a better screen than my Tolino Vision 6 (Libra 2)

JSWolf · 03-10-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Not always. The Libra 1 had a sunken screen too, but the display was pretty meh.

Libra H2O. As was said before, don't call it Libra 1 as that can cause others to think the original Libra H2O was called Libra 1.

03-09-2023, 02:31 PM	#1
neighner Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2023 Device: none	Does this exist? I bought a Kindle Paperwhite. I do not like the flush screen. So I got a Kobo Libra 2 instead only to find out that Scribd will not work on it. And Kobo doesn’t have their subscription service in the U.S. yet. I want a service that has both ebooks and audiobooks. And I would like a 7” or greater sunken screen e-reader. Suggestions?

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03-09-2023, 03:21 PM	#3
salamanderjuice Guru Posts: 854 Karma: 12122120 Join Date: Jul 2017 Device: Boox Nova 2	Why the preference for sunken screen? Your best bet is an Android model because then you can just use the Android app for Scribd or whatever you want. The Boox Leaf 2 is a pretty similar form factor the the Libra 2. Meebook P78 is another device to look at. They don't have sunken screens though but AFAIK no Android reader bigger than 6" you can buy does so you may have to pick your poison.