Jetbook with New Formats Now at Bed Bath and Beyond - Page 4

Ea · 04-16-2009, 06:37 AM

How does coupon's actually work? I mean, how does people get them, can they just be used everywhere, are they distributed by retailers or manufacturers, and isn't there a lot of administration for both shops and manufacturers? How does it make economic sense - wouldn't the extra cost connected with giving rebate and administrating it mean an increase in the price?

pilotbob · 04-16-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ea

How does coupon's actually work? I mean, how does people get them, can they just be used everywhere, are they distributed by retailers or manufacturers, and isn't there a lot of administration for both shops and manufacturers? How does it make economic sense - wouldn't the extra cost connected with giving rebate and administrating it mean an increase in the price?

Actually a rebate is different than a coupon. The idea of a coupon is to get you into the store. Many of them are pretty restrictive. Also, the hope is the coupon will increase the traffic in the store hence profits.

Rebates do cost money to administer. However, I think only a small percentage of people every actually go through all the motions needed to get a rebate. That is why many states are mandating that rebates must be "instant" rebates that are applied at the store.

Also, coupons are "mostly" issued by the store. Where as rebates are issued by the manufacturer. Although there are many manufactures coupons too... mostly for grocery type products.

BOb

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Actually a rebate is different than a coupon. The idea of a coupon is to get you into the store. Many of them are pretty restrictive. Also, the hope is the coupon will increase the traffic in the store hence profits.

Rebates do cost money to administer. However, I think only a small percentage of people every actually go through all the motions needed to get a rebate. That is why many states are mandating that rebates must be "instant" rebates that are applied at the store.

Also, coupons are "mostly" issued by the store. Where as rebates are issued by the manufacturer. Although there are many manufactures coupons too... mostly for grocery type products.

BOb

Yes, and many people don't buy any products without coupons

pilotbob · 04-16-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris777

Yes, and many people don't buy any products without coupons

Sure, but "many" isn't "most" or a very high percentage.

BOb

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Sure, but "many" isn't "most" or a very high percentage.

BOb

Yes, but I know several people

Ea · 04-16-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Actually a rebate is different than a coupon. The idea of a coupon is to get you into the store. Many of them are pretty restrictive. Also, the hope is the coupon will increase the traffic in the store hence profits.

Rebates do cost money to administer. However, I think only a small percentage of people every actually go through all the motions needed to get a rebate. That is why many states are mandating that rebates must be "instant" rebates that are applied at the store.

Also, coupons are "mostly" issued by the store. Where as rebates are issued by the manufacturer. Although there are many manufactures coupons too... mostly for grocery type products.

BOb

Thanks. But what does a coupon offer then, if not a kind of rebate, like two for a lower total price? I'm just wondering why it's different from a rebate. That is, to me 'rebate' means a lower price than the 'normal' price, usually a temporary rebate. It sounds like 'rebate' is a complicated system in USA.

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

Thanks. But what does a coupon offer then, if not a kind of rebate, like two for a lower total price? I'm just wondering why it's different from a rebate. That is, to me 'rebate' means a lower price than the 'normal' price, usually a temporary rebate. It sounds like 'rebate' is a complicated system in USA.

I think you can use the word "rebate" for coupons. If you present coupon in the store you will get rebate instantly.

DaleDe · 04-16-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris777

I think you can use the word "rebate" for coupons. If you present coupon in the store you will get rebate instantly.

Generally a coupon and a rebate come from different people. The store honors a coupon against the price that is charged and may then possibly forward the coupon to the issuer for a refund.

A rebate is different in that the user must deal with it. The store sells at the normal price and then the user is obligated to send in the rebate to the issuer and receive the refund. The rebate can be a scam with all sorts of rules that must be explicitly followed in order to get the rebate and sometimes it just never comes at all for unexplained reasons. Many people don't even consider a rebate as a break in the price and just ignore it due to the hassle. Originally rebates were used by car manufacturers to allow the dealer to get full credit for cars they had purchased but now it is often a gimmick as seen by the consumer.

Dale

Dale

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

Generally a coupon and a rebate come from different people. The store honors a coupon against the price that is charged and may then possibly forward the coupon to the issuer for a refund.

A rebate is different in that the user must deal with it. The store sells at the normal price and then the user is obligated to send in the rebate to the issuer and receive the refund. The rebate can be a scam with all sorts of rules that must be explicitly followed in order to get the rebate and sometimes it just never comes at all for unexplained reasons. Many people don't even consider a rebate as a break in the price and just ignore it due to the hassle. Originally rebates were used by car manufacturers to allow the dealer to get full credit for cars they had purchased but now it is often a gimmick as seen by the consumer.

Dale

Dale

Ok, but what is the difference between instant rebate and coupon in this case? In both cases customer will get discount before pay for the purchase.

badgoodDeb · 04-16-2009, 02:59 PM

Instant rebate is usually given to everyone purchasing. Coupon requires you to bring a little slip of paper (the coupon). Other than that, not really any difference!

DaleDe - good explanation above.

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Instant rebate is usually given to everyone purchasing. Coupon requires you to bring a little slip of paper (the coupon). Other than that, not really any difference!

DaleDe - good explanation above.

100% Agree

. Can you check if your BB&B coupon will work for jetBook purchase?

JSWolf · 04-16-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris777

100% Agree

. Can you check if your BB&B coupon will work for jetBook purchase?

Question... would you recommend a Jetbook to someone who does not know about DRM. Does not know how to strip DRM, and just wants to purchase, load the eBooks on the device and read? This being someone who's choice in book would run to those that have DRM.

Kris777 · 04-16-2009, 03:25 PM

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Question... would you recommend a Jetbook to someone who does not know about DRM. Does not know how to strip DRM, and just wants to purchase, load the eBooks on the device and read? This being someone who's choice in book would run to those that have DRM.

Yes, I recommended jetBook to many friends who already purchased jetBook and like it a lot.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 04-16-2009, 04:50 PM

Teleread now reports that Newegg has the Jetbook for $200.

Do I hear $150?

Is Sony listening?

JSWolf · 04-16-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Teleread now reports that Newegg has the Jetbook for $200.

Do I hear $150?

Is Sony listening?

The cost of LCD is a lot cheaper then the cost of eink.

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04-16-2009, 06:37 AM	#46
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	How does coupon's actually work? I mean, how does people get them, can they just be used everywhere, are they distributed by retailers or manufacturers, and isn't there a lot of administration for both shops and manufacturers? How does it make economic sense - wouldn't the extra cost connected with giving rebate and administrating it mean an increase in the price?

04-16-2009, 02:59 PM	#55
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,551 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Instant rebate is usually given to everyone purchasing. Coupon requires you to bring a little slip of paper (the coupon). Other than that, not really any difference! DaleDe - good explanation above.

04-16-2009, 04:50 PM	#59
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	Teleread now reports that Newegg has the Jetbook for $200. Do I hear $150? Is Sony listening?