Dealing with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.19 and KFX in calibre

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by johnelle

I discovered that my wife's old (Gen 1?) fire was still registered to our account so I was successfully using the USB transfer method. However this morning I purchased / downloaded 6 books and half get a DRM error if I try convert them from AZW to Epub. I've tried the download twice with the same result.

Not sure if they are treating the Fire differently than a e-ink machine but looks like it is time to finally close the Amazon bookstore for my purchases.

You need an E-ink Kindle (not a Fire) for method 3.

[johnelle]

Guess we'll see--I have a used e-ink on the way. However, the Fire link worked just fine for about 30+ books until yesterday (Saturday 2/18) so let's say I am concerned until I can verify it myself.

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by johnelle

Guess we'll see--I have a used e-ink on the way. However, the Fire link worked just fine for about 30+ books until yesterday (Saturday 2/18) so let's say I am concerned until I can verify it myself.

If you chose a Fire for download & transfer and it "worked", the books were already DRM-free. Those downloaded for an E-ink Kindle can be decrypted.

[johnelle]

I just received an e-ink Kindle Paperwhite Generation 7. The USB download behaves the same way on the e-ink as it did on the fire. The book is loaded, but DRM is still embedded so you are unable to convert it to any other format.

As I said before, I do not believe that so-called "Option 3" works reliably anymore.

The book I am testing with is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...w_myk_ro_title

If I knew what criteria makes a book incompatible with Calibre then I could still buy books in an emergency, but for now I can't depend on being able to load a purchase into Calibre.

Calibre and all the usual plugins are up to the latest version no.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by johnelle

I just received an e-ink Kindle Paperwhite Generation 7. The USB download behaves the same way on the e-ink as it did on the fire. The book is loaded, but DRM is still embedded so you are unable to convert it to any other format.

As I said before, I do not believe that so-called "Option 3" works reliably anymore.

The book I am testing with is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...w_myk_ro_title

If I knew what criteria makes a book incompatible with Calibre then I could still buy books in an emergency, but for now I can't depend on being able to load a purchase into Calibre.

Calibre and all the usual plugins are up to the latest version no.

You need to configure the deDRM plugin. Hint: serial number

[johnelle]

So my DRM plugin does have the serial numbers configured for both the eink machine and the V1 Fire but that doesn't work for either "add file" (i.e. automatic) or "load from device").

I believe that the problem is that my Paperwhite is too new. The firmware is 5.14.3.0.1 and the documentation says that it has to be 5.10.2 or older. The Fire also has a S/N but that behaves the same way for me.

So to try and be precise: option 3 only works on recently published books if you have a very old e-ink Kindle (and you can imagine they eventually will shut that off too).

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by johnelle

So to try and be precise: option 3 only works on recently published books if you have a very old e-ink Kindle (and you can imagine they eventually will shut that off too).

Not true. I have bought several ebooks published after January 3, with DRM, and the DRM removal (configured for the 2017 Oasis, 9th generation) worked for every one of them. I tried with the book you linked in your post, and it worked. So something must be wrong with your setup.

[johnelle]

Well I guess we can quibble what "older" means but my firmware is definitely newer than what the documentation says is a supported level for deDRM whereas the physical device itself is "well used."

Configuration was pretty simple. Hit the configure button. Hit the Kindle button and enter the serial nos. Also restarted Calibre just to make sure it was loading the latest. Confirmed that my plugin is up to date.

Don't know what an Oasis is. I keep up with my mom's paperwhite but that's about the only Kindle in use in our family (Samsung Tablet is my preference)

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by johnelle

Well I guess we can quibble what "older" means but my firmware is definitely newer than what the documentation says is a supported level for deDRM whereas the physical device itself is "well used."

Configuration was pretty simple. Hit the configure button. Hit the Kindle button and enter the serial nos. Also restarted Calibre just to make sure it was loading the latest. Confirmed that my plugin is up to date.

Don't know what an Oasis is. I keep up with my mom's paperwhite but that's about the only Kindle in use in our family (Samsung Tablet is my preference)

The Kindle Oasis I'm using for this is a Kindle model newer than your 7th gen Paperwhite, released in 2017. And eink firmware versions play no role whatsoever in DRM removal if you're using Download & Transfer. I'm guessing you've misunderstood something. How exactly are you downloading those books?

[Quoth]

The Fire is using an App. It doesn't work. All Fire models, even if old and having Kindle in the name are not Kindles, they are an Amazon version of an Android tablet with an app.

The absolute newest real eink kindles and newest books work if they are bought & downloaded via Content & Devices.. Borrowed books do not work.

It doesn't work copying off the Kindle. You have to download direct from Amazon website Content & Devices to a NOT kindle or NOT Fire, using a Browser.

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by johnelle

I just received an e-ink Kindle Paperwhite Generation 7. The USB download behaves the same way on the e-ink as it did on the fire. The book is loaded, but DRM is still embedded so you are unable to convert it to any other format.

As I said before, I do not believe that so-called "Option 3" works reliably anymore.

The book I am testing with is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...w_myk_ro_title

If I knew what criteria makes a book incompatible with Calibre then I could still buy books in an emergency, but for now I can't depend on being able to load a purchase into Calibre.

Calibre and all the usual plugins are up to the latest version no.

Since the book you linked to is free, I tested it for myself. I chose my Oasis 2 with firmware 5.15.1 for the device. As expected, I was able to remove the DRM without any issues.

So the problem is something about what you're doing or your setup. Ask over at the GitHub, and I'll see what's going on.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by johnelle

I just received an e-ink Kindle Paperwhite Generation 7. The USB download behaves the same way on the e-ink as it did on the fire. The book is loaded, but DRM is still embedded so you are unable to convert it to any other format.

As I said before, I do not believe that so-called "Option 3" works reliably anymore.

The book I am testing with is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...w_myk_ro_title

If I knew what criteria makes a book incompatible with Calibre then I could still buy books in an emergency, but for now I can't depend on being able to load a purchase into Calibre.

Calibre and all the usual plugins are up to the latest version no.

Option 3 still works. I just did removed the DRm from the free eBook you've linked.

[ownedbycats]

The book is also available for free on Kobo. (Oddly, it's 3.99 on ebooks.com.)

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by johnelle

So my DRM plugin does have the serial numbers configured for both the eink machine and the V1 Fire but that doesn't work for either "add file" (i.e. automatic) or "load from device").

Files on a recent eInk Kindle will be in KFX format. That has DRM that the tools don't currently remove.

You really need to read the third option of the first post again.

[johnelle]

Deleted the plugin. Downloaded .zip. Reinstalled. Deleted S/N of Paperwhite and re-entered it.

Now it worked.

This book is one of those that Kindle app won't download unless I do an update (no thanks). The transfer via Paperwhite link is compatible with the plugin and can be converted.

Not sure what was going on before.