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Old 02-16-2023, 05:53 PM   #1396
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Does the "ecosystem" include the kindle for android? I may have missed it but can the kindle app read the new DRM?
Kindle for Android and Kindle for iOS are kept up-to-date with KFX format features and the latest DRM.

It used to be possible to obtain Kindle books in KF8 (azw3) format with removable DRM using Kindle for Android up to version 4.17 released in 2015. There are still some instructions on how to make use of it in the DeDRM plugin documentation.

The DeDRM FAQ indicates that using Kindle for Android is no longer possible and recommends using Kindle for PC/Mac instead. Now that things have changed it might be worth tracking down an old APK to see whether or not it can still be made to work.
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Old 02-16-2023, 06:16 PM   #1397
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Kindle for Android and Kindle for iOS are kept up-to-date with KFX format features and the latest DRM.

It used to be possible to obtain Kindle books in KF8 (azw3) format with removable DRM using Kindle for Android up to version 4.17 released in 2015. There are still some instructions on how to make use of it in the DeDRM plugin documentation.

The DeDRM FAQ indicates that using Kindle for Android is no longer possible and recommends using Kindle for PC/Mac instead. Now that things have changed it might be worth tracking down an old APK to see whether or not it can still be made to work.
Could it work with an emulator like Bluestacks, perhaps?
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Old 02-16-2023, 06:46 PM   #1398
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Except for the five books I had not downloaded by Barnes and Noble when they stopped letting you download from there. Lesson learned.

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FYI B&N books are pretty easy to DeDRM now from the Windows Nook app.
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Old 02-16-2023, 07:15 PM   #1399
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Could it work with an emulator like Bluestacks, perhaps?
I don’t know. If someone tries it hopefully they will report their results.
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FYI B&N books are pretty easy to DeDRM now from the Windows Nook app.
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
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Old 02-16-2023, 11:29 PM   #1401
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I do seriously wish they'd do one thing like pbooks: Put a synopsis at the front. Like what's on the back of pbooks or on the front flaps. I have books loaded on my PW and can't remember what they're about. I just know I wanted to read them. Yes, I occasionally do some weeding. I have to since I maxed out the storage space a few weeks ago. Yay me. Goals, right?
On Kobo you can read a synopsis without even opening the book. I'm surprised you can't do that on a Kindle.
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Old 02-16-2023, 11:34 PM   #1402
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On Kobo you can read a synopsis without even opening the book. I'm surprised you can't do that on a Kindle.
You can read the synopsis of direct downloads via the Kindle store, but this doesn't work with sideloaded books or with wifi off. Certainly the way Kobo does it is better, like most other metadata stuff.
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Kindle for Android and Kindle for iOS are kept up-to-date with KFX format features and the latest DRM.

It used to be possible to obtain Kindle books in KF8 (azw3) format with removable DRM using Kindle for Android up to version 4.17 released in 2015. There are still some instructions on how to make use of it in the DeDRM plugin documentation.

The DeDRM FAQ indicates that using Kindle for Android is no longer possible and recommends using Kindle for PC/Mac instead. Now that things have changed it might be worth tracking down an old APK to see whether or not it can still be made to work.
Would you happen to have the MD5 checksum of the APK for 4.17?

EDIT: I found a safe copy.
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Old 02-17-2023, 02:02 AM   #1404
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Kindle for Android:

I acquired a copy of com.amazon.kindle-4.16.0.75-1145045067-minAPI16.apk, installed it into BlueStacks 5, and signed in.

I was able download this book (published February 10th), but then got this error:

Click image for larger version Name: 2023-02-17 02_45_56-BlueStacks App Player.png Views: 360 Size: 433.6 KB ID: 199770

But then I was able to read the eBook anyways.

Click image for larger version Name: 2023-02-17 02_56_04-BlueStacks App Player.png Views: 283 Size: 130.8 KB ID: 199771

And then I found these files in a asin-named subfolder in /Android/data/com.amazon.kindle/files/

Click image for larger version Name: 2023-02-17 03_02_05-BlueStacks App Player.png Views: 336 Size: 82.4 KB ID: 199772

Not very familiar with Kindle files so I don't know if these would be usable.

Will also need to look up whether Android Debug Bridge can be used with Bluestacks
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Old 02-17-2023, 02:15 AM   #1405
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On Kobo you can read a synopsis without even opening the book.
Well, if you're shaky-fingered like me, you may often open the book trying to open the menu to get to the details
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Well, if you're shaky-fingered like me, you may often open the book trying to open the menu to get to the details
In case you missed it, you can tap and hold in on a book in My Books, which will bring up a menu that may be a little easier to work with. This is what I do since trying tapping on the "..." often opened the book.
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Ah, this explains what has happened to me. I just got a new PC and installed K4PC v1.17. I was able to download all but 1 book - published after Jan 3. Now it makes sense at least. I thought I was losing it! I do have an eink kindle so I'll try and get the book on my PC/into Calibre that way. thx for the post!
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Ah, this explains what has happened to me. I just got a new PC and installed K4PC v1.17. I was able to download all but 1 book - published after Jan 3. Now it makes sense at least. I thought I was losing it! I do have an eink kindle so I'll try and get the book on my PC/into Calibre that way. thx for the post!
Unless your Kindle is an earlier model then a PW1, you won't be able to remove the DRM or get the eBook from the Kindle into Calibre.
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Unless your Kindle is an earlier model then a PW1, you won't be able to remove the DRM or get the eBook from the Kindle into Calibre.

I think mine is old enough. At least, I was able to do it in December. Has something changed?
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