Amazon and DRM changes

[hyegeek]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

Give them a break -- maybe spellcheck "corrected" it for them.

Actually, this sub thread started because I used speech to text and didn't carefully check everything. So ya, maybe we can let it rest now.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Patitapetit

If i've Had the Knowhow I would not to be here but trying crack DRM.
Do u really think the 39 Algorithmen are very different?

At least I don't tell people "don't try there are 39 Algorithmen, It's difficult"

Do u work in Amazon?

lkmiller could work for Amazon, but then it makes one wonder why he has posted so much help in the past on working around Amazon's DRM. Maybe he is a recent hire.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by John F

lkmiller could work for Amazon, but then it makes one wonder why he has posted so much help in the past on working around Amazon's DRM. Maybe he is a recent hire.

She.

A safe assumption, I think, given her name under her avatar.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by issybird

She.

A safe assumption, I think, given her name under her avatar.

Anymore, that is not as safe a assumption as it used to be.

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by Patitapetit

If i've Had the Knowhow I would not to be here but trying crack DRM.
Do u really think the 39 Algorithmen are very different?

At least I don't tell people "don't try there are 39 Algorithmen, It's difficult"

Do u work in Amazon?

At least I'm not saying, "It can't be that difficult. Why doesn't somebody else do it?"

Little perspective: People have figured out then current KFX DRM twice. If you were one of the people who happened to catch the update to DeDRM right away, you were able to decrypt KFX books downloaded to the current (at that time) Kindle for PC/Mac and those downloaded directly to an E-ink Kindle with the latest firmware. By the next day we were all back to only being able to decrypt KFX files from Kindle for PC/Mac 1.26 or earlier. Whatever effort and time it took was a total waste.

The older KFX DRM encryption (which can still be removed if you can download the book with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.26 or earlier) was only figured out when Kindle for PC/Mac was updated to utilize it and more books were coming out in that format -- somewhere between 1 and 2 years after the format had already started showing up on Kindles. In other words, after a much larger amount of people were running into it.

Right now few people are even affected by this: someone who wants to buy a just published book who doesn't own an E-ink Kindle. And if you want to read it on a non-Kindle device/app, you're better off avoiding KFX and getting KF8/AZW3 anyway. I'd personally be much more interested in finding out if it's possible to get the latest Kindle for PC to cough up KF8 files.

The hardened Adobe DRM can only recently be removed after many, many years of being around but hardly utilized. That only changed when a fairly major provider of Adobe DRMed books switched completely to it.

I'd be quite surprised if KFX DRM is figured out (and the solution shared) while there are workarounds and for many it isn't even an issue. Until then, the motivation just isn't there.

In the meantime, patience, buying books elsewhere (DRM-free or which can be decrypted), and/or getting yourself some decryption knowhow.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

Google Translate is correct for the US spelling of the common noun. But when someone says caliber here it's pretty safe to assume they're talking about the ebook program and not quality or guns. Give them a break -- maybe spellcheck "corrected" it for them.

We get the wrong spelling way too much. It's time we let them know the correct word. And when it's incorrectly spelled in the topic, searching becomes a fail.

See yet another new thread with the topic misspelled.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=4297839

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by lkmiller

The hardened Adobe DRM can only recently be removed after many, many years of being around but hardly utilized. That only changed when a fairly major provider of Adobe DRMed books switched completely to it.

Who is this major provider? Thanks.

[lkmiller]

Yes, 'she', but no offense taken. And no, I don't work for Amazon.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

We get the wrong spelling way too much. It's time we let them know the correct word.

Good luck on fixing Google, or Wikipedia. USA is less than 13%, but you'd think it's in charge of the Internet and English!

It's all Webster's fault.

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Who is this major provider? Thanks.

Honestly, I forget. It's a library service, not an ebookstore.

---
I remembered -- ProQuest.

[John F]

Originally Posted by issybird

She.

A safe assumption, I think, given her name under her avatar.

Originally Posted by lkmiller

Yes, 'she', but no offense taken. And no, I don't work for Amazon.

My apologies and thank you for the correction.

lkmiller, thank you for your contributions on MR.

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

One of the main publishers I know of for the "sold without DRM" messages is Tor/Macmillan. I found the contact page, but general inquiries seem limited to snail mail and Twitter.

Saga Press (Simon & Schuster imprint) is suppose to be DRM-free (and is in other stores) although I haven't found any "sold without DRM" message in their descriptions at Amazon or elsewhere. Can't find contact info either.

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by Patitapetit

Do u really think the 39 Algorithmen are very different?

At least I don't tell people "don't try there are 39 Algorithmen, It's difficult"

Do u work in Amazon?

lkmiller has done more than anyone else to support the use of the DeDRM Tools. She has selflessly spent what must be hundreds of hours of her time answering questions from those having trouble using the tools. To imply that she must be a paid shill because she is honestly pointing the roadblocks to defeating Amazon's KFX DRM is just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Patitapetit

If i've Had the Knowhow I would not to be here but trying crack DRM.

Here is another idea. Since you want so much to help but do not have the knowledge to do it yourself you could post a bounty for each KFX DRM version successfully cracked. Something around $100 per algorithm would probably work, although that would be far less than a software developer would typically make for the effort involved. By doing that YOU could be the one ultimately responsible for breaking Amazon's DRM. And it would only cost you about $4000.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by jhowell

lkmiller has done more than anyone else to support the use of the DeDRM Tools. She has selflessly spent what must be hundreds of hours of her time answering questions from those having trouble using the tools. To imply that she must be a paid shill because she is honestly pointing the roadblocks to defeating Amazon's KFX DRM is just ridiculous.

Thank you. Except that I’d call it offensive, not ridiculous.

[Dr. Drib]

From the creator of calibre, a post from almost 15 years ago:

"Just a heads up to let you know that libprs500 has now been renamed to calibre..." (emphasis added).

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=23476