Amazon and DRM changes

[mitra1]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Something is contradicting itself.

you have reason

[mitra1]

Originally Posted by Lys

Not really?



They key part is "in the event of consent". If the publisher allows you to resell/distribute the book, whoever ends with a copy of it (the subsequent user) is under the same conditions as if they bought/got the book from the publisher itself.

yes, you have reason. It's necessary editor's consent to have subsequent user.

[John F]

Originally Posted by mitra1

For example in italy we can read this



This ebook contains copyrighted material and may not be copied, reproduced, transferred, distributed, rented, licensed, or broadcast in public, or used in any other way except as specifically authorized by the publisher, on the terms and conditions under which it was purchased, or as explicitly provided by applicable law. Any unauthorized distribution or use of this text as well as the alteration of the electronic rights regime information constitutes a violation of the publisher's and author's rights and will be sanctioned civilly and criminally in accordance with the provisions of Legge 633/1941 as amended.

This ebook shall in no way be subject to exchange, trade, loan, resale, installment purchase or otherwise disseminated without the prior written consent of the publisher. In the event of consent, this ebook may not have any form other than that in which the work was published, and the conditions included herein shall also be imposed on the subsequent user.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

In sinthesis it's illegal dedrm an ebook if i understood well and I am a criminal because i use dedrm software

Well, what does applicable law say?

[Ma'am-I-Am]

Personally, I think all the quibbling in this thread over what's right/legal and what's wrong/illegal is a waste of energy. We all choose what laws to follow and what laws to break - whether we know it or not. The real question is possibility.

If I have a pbook (purchased or borrowed), the publisher and author and everyone else involved already know they've lost control of that individual volume. If I scan it or photocopy it, they will never know unless I do something stupid and public with it. That may change in future. Microdots are handy things, for instance, as are individual serial numbers or microprint. But the possibility of being busted for it is small at this time.

If I have an ebook (purchased or borrowed), the fact that it is an electronic medium and must be read on an electronic device makes it much easier for it to be tracked. If I want to purchase or borrow an ebook, strip the DRM, and read it on a competitor's device, I may eventually have to consider if there's a way for it to "phone home", i.e. inform the ereader manufacturer or anyone else who cares that this has happened. Right now, the possibility of it is small unless, again, I do something stupid and public with it. Just removing DRM does not affect the author or publisher or even the ereader manufacturer.

As for keeping an ereader on airplane mode to prevent updates or whatever: all they need to do is add an internal timer to turn it back on.

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

As for keeping an ereader on airplane mode to prevent updates or whatever: all they need to do is add an internal timer to turn it back on.

I suppose you could block the reader's mac address at the modem level, but that's only for wifi.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

As for keeping an ereader on airplane mode to prevent updates or whatever: all they need to do is add an internal timer to turn it back on.

Not if you have it forget the password.

[DiapDealer]

Lot of Chicken Little channeling going on around here.

[mitra1]

Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

Personally, I think all the quibbling in this thread over what's right/legal and what's wrong/illegal is a waste of energy. We all choose what laws to follow and what laws to break - whether we know it or not. The real question is possibility.

If I have a pbook (purchased or borrowed), the publisher and author and everyone else involved already know they've lost control of that individual volume. If I scan it or photocopy it, they will never know unless I do something stupid and public with it. That may change in future. Microdots are handy things, for instance, as are individual serial numbers or microprint. But the possibility of being busted for it is small at this time.

If I have an ebook (purchased or borrowed), the fact that it is an electronic medium and must be read on an electronic device makes it much easier for it to be tracked. If I want to purchase or borrow an ebook, strip the DRM, and read it on a competitor's device, I may eventually have to consider if there's a way for it to "phone home", i.e. inform the ereader manufacturer or anyone else who cares that this has happened. Right now, the possibility of it is small unless, again, I do something stupid and public with it. Just removing DRM does not affect the author or publisher or even the ereader manufacturer.

As for keeping an ereader on airplane mode to prevent updates or whatever: all they need to do is add an internal timer to turn it back on.

It is a waste of time until the discussion remains here, but I have already spoken in my native language on social networks with ignorant people about Drm and ebook in general about these facts: https://qr.ae/prA8Lq and it would be necessary that everyone speak about this in social network or with own friends.

Law is extremamely general for that I understand but in my limited undestanding (I am not a lawyer) writing these lines editor can make inlegal dedrm actions.

[Ma'am-I-Am]

Was there ever a Kindle app for the Nook?

[Patitapetit]

Originally Posted by mitra1

It is a waste of time until the discussion remains here, but I have already spoken in my native language on social networks with ignorant people about Drm and ebook in general about these facts: https://qr.ae/prA8Lq and it would be necessary that everyone speak about this in social network or with own friends.

Law is extremamely general for that I understand but in my limited undestanding (I am not a lawyer) writing these lines editor can make inlegal dedrm actions.

Questa cosa degli 40 DRMs,tutti ne credono....

[haertig]

Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

As for keeping an ereader on airplane mode to prevent updates or whatever: all they need to do is add an internal timer to turn it back on.

Which is one of the reasons to keep it in airplane mode. So they can't secretly install a new firmware that will create one of those internet timers.

(You forgot that the device would need to know the password to connect to your WiFi even if an internet timer stealthily took it out of airplane mode. Don't give it that password. And also have your router block it's MAC address.)

[lkmiller]

Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

Was there ever a Kindle app for the Nook?

The regular Kindle for Android could be run on Nooks.

[John F]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

I suppose you could block the reader's mac address at the modem level, but that's only for wifi.

Nah, because the modem manufacturers are in cahoots with the ereader manufactures.

[John F]

Originally Posted by haertig

Which is one of the reasons to keep it in airplane mode. So they can't secretly install a new firmware that will create one of those internet timers.

(You forgot that the device would need to know the password to connect to your WiFi even if an internet timer stealthily took it out of airplane mode. Don't give it that password. And also have your router block it's MAC address.)

And if you are going to keep it in airplane mode, why not delete all known networks (on the ereader).

[A Lurker]

Originally Posted by John F

Going for memory, so I may be wrong, but I thought some Napster users (or Napster itself) was sued, and I don't think they "produced" any copies; they were sued for sharing copies?

Yes, Napster facilitated mass distribution. That's why it got in trouble.