Dealing with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.19 and KFX in calibre - Page 121

nymu22 · 01-25-2023, 02:57 PM

Off topic question. How often do you guys rip books? I usually wait a couple weeks in between each book to avoid getting banned.

stumped · 01-25-2023, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nymu22

Off topic question. How often do you guys rip books? I usually wait a couple weeks in between each book to avoid getting banned.

Is this another "how to steal rentals "question.

I can rip , i. e. download and transfer, books that I have purchased as often as I like, no restrictions

stumped · 01-25-2023, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mk14steve

I don't disagree with you or the other replies.

I...

I believed (mistakenly maybe) that the people with those qualities you list, intensely disliked being "defeated" and rose to the challenge for their own satisfaction. A kind of "freedom of expression", a battle of wits or a "stick it to the man" thing.

Now the Bezos's of the world (and at one time it was the Gate's of the world) say "jump" and we all reply, "how high?"

Now we are all happy just to conform?

Who would have thought it? How the world has changed ...

I can't think of any other digital goods where there are not freely available tools to rip
steal, borrow...
Music, movies , audiobooks , games all have downloadable solutions that Google can find in minutes.
It's strange that the smallest and simplest digital files are the best protected , as at now

fermin · 01-25-2023, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freeder

Can you say how you check that before buying?

Two examples:
- "The Boys from Biloxi" by John Grisham
- "Cats in Space and Other Places" by Bill Fawcett

Look at the eBooks' properties or "Product details". The book by Grisham has DRM, the one by Fawcett doesn't. It doesn't say "protected by DRM" on Grisham's book. However, it says "Simultaneous device usage: Unlimited" on Fawcett's. So it's the absence of such a property that means the book has DRM.

fermin · 01-25-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nymu22

Off topic question. How often do you guys rip books? I usually wait a couple weeks in between each book to avoid getting banned.

We don't, if by "rip books" you mean illegally copying rentals.

Sirtel · 01-25-2023, 06:13 PM

Or if it means making a deDRMed copy of a purchased book and return the original for refund. Never. Return the original, I mean. I buy so many books I would get banned immediately, if I did that, even if I was tempted (which I'm not).

Sirtel · 01-25-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fermin

Two examples:
- "The Boys from Biloxi" by John Grisham
- "Cats in Space and Other Places" by Bill Fawcett

Look at the eBooks' properties or "Product details". The book by Grisham has DRM, the one by Fawcett doesn't. It doesn't say "protected by DRM" on Grisham's book. However, it says "Simultaneous device usage: Unlimited" on Fawcett's. So it's the absence of such a property that means the book has DRM.

That shows the DRM/lack of it, not whether the book is KFX-only.

Cootey · 01-25-2023, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ownedbycats

If it's KFX only, you're out of luck.

I was afraid of that. The downloaded file is an .azw3 file, but DeDrm processes it in an instant, meaning no actual stripping of DRM occurs. I'll just stick to Kobo from now on. I've already made the transition a year ago when Amazon changed their billing practices, but I had some digital credit. They lured me in and got me.

Cootey · 01-25-2023, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nymu22

Off topic question. How often do you guys rip books? I usually wait a couple weeks in between each book to avoid getting banned.

I must have missed the memo that stated that you want to steal KU books. I'm not sure why everybody's assuming that.

However, I don't know what you mean by getting banned. I *used* to strip my Kindle purchases of DRM about once a week, but I've done it moments after I purchased the item day after day, too. Now that's not possible with the changes made this month on Amazon's server side.

Sirtel · 01-25-2023, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cootey

I must have missed the memo that stated that you want to steal KU books. I'm not sure why everybody's assuming that.

I don't think they mean KU books; I think they mean returning a purchased book for refund after making a deDRMed copy of it. You can get banned for excessive returns.

And yes, that's stealing too, of course.

Sirtel · 01-25-2023, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cootey

However, I don't know what you mean by getting banned. I *used* to strip my Kindle purchases of DRM about once a week, but I've done it moments after I purchased the item day after day, too. Now that's not possible with the changes made this month on Amazon's server side.

It's still possible if you have an eink Kindle on your account.

fermin · 01-26-2023, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

That shows the DRM/lack of it, not whether the book is KFX-only.

Sorry, I misunderstood your question.

lkmiller · 01-26-2023, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by freeder

Can you say how you check that before buying?

I just meant keeping tabs on this thread to see if there had been any further changes discovered by others.

lkmiller · 01-26-2023, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cootey

I was afraid of that. The downloaded file is an .azw3 file, but DeDrm processes it in an instant, meaning no actual stripping of DRM occurs. I'll just stick to Kobo from now on. I've already made the transition a year ago when Amazon changed their billing practices, but I had some digital credit. They lured me in and got me.

If it's an AZW3, then it should be fine. Ask over at noDRM's gitHub.

eta: and if you have an E-ink Kindle

eta again: comics and manga are usually non-kfx even from the latest Kindle for PC/Mac

lizzielou · 01-28-2023, 08:37 AM

My readers are Sony which I love and I am now not sure what to do with the new restrictions on Amazon books from Jan 3rd. It has been mentioned that you can get them into Calibre with a specific type of Kindle.

I don't know anything about the Kindles as I have always avoided them like the plague but it looks like I am going to have to buy one so that I can import my books to Calibre.

My question is what Kindle should I buy to do this?

Also, would I be able to copy my own books from Calibre to the Kindle if I should want to read them there (mainly epubs but can be converted in Calibre if needed) or would Amazon know these were not bought or downloaded from them and delete them.

Any help would be appreciated as I really don't want to read my books on a Kindle.

01-25-2023, 06:13 PM	#1806
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,532 Karma: 240526511 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	Or if it means making a deDRMed copy of a purchased book and return the original for refund. Never. Return the original, I mean. I buy so many books I would get banned immediately, if I did that, even if I was tempted (which I'm not). Last edited by Sirtel; 01-25-2023 at 11:35 PM.

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nymu22 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2023 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Off topic question. How often do you guys rip books? I usually wait a couple weeks in between each book to avoid getting banned.

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lizzielou Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: No longer near a beach in Spain - back in the UK Device: Sony PRS-505, 300, 350 & 650	My readers are Sony which I love and I am now not sure what to do with the new restrictions on Amazon books from Jan 3rd. It has been mentioned that you can get them into Calibre with a specific type of Kindle. I don't know anything about the Kindles as I have always avoided them like the plague but it looks like I am going to have to buy one so that I can import my books to Calibre. My question is what Kindle should I buy to do this? Also, would I be able to copy my own books from Calibre to the Kindle if I should want to read them there (mainly epubs but can be converted in Calibre if needed) or would Amazon know these were not bought or downloaded from them and delete them. Any help would be appreciated as I really don't want to read my books on a Kindle.