A todos los hispanohablantes... to all spanish speakers

[columbus]

Originally Posted by Alphapheemail;

Tuve la idea de ver (por manera de votación) cuantos miembros en Mobileread son hispano hablantes. Para que nos conozcamos y ver si podemos a empezar discusiones sobre literatura/cultura/eventos en Latino América y Europa. =)

I had the idea to start a poll to see how many people on Mobileread speak spanish. This thread can be a way for us to know all of us and to start discussions about literature/culture/events in Latin America and Europe. =)

When you say Spanish, do you realise just how many dialects there are in Spain?. I speak/understand/write/read Castillano. I live in Valencia province, where they speak Vallenciano. Quite how you learn this without living in the province I do not know as there are no published dictionaries. Have you ever heard a Basque speaker? to me it sounds like Russian!. In the USA you speak Latin American Spanish (Castillano / idioma de Madrid). I don't know all of them but I can think of at least seven Spanish dialects. We have only I think 4 distinct dialects of English in the UK. But correct me please.

I am sure one of our Spanish members will correct me and clarify this.

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by columbus

When you say Spanish, do you realise just how many dialects there are in Spain?. I speak/understand/write/read Castillano. I live in Valencia province, where they speak Vallenciano. Quite how you learn this without living in the province I do not know as there are no published dictionaries. Have you ever heard a Basque speaker? to me it sounds like Russian!. In the USA you speak Latin American Spanish (Castillano / idioma de Madrid). I don't know all of them but I can think of at least seven Spanish dialects. We have only I think 4 distinct dialects of English in the UK. But correct me please.

I am sure one of our Spanish members will correct me and clarify this.

I know somewhat about the dialects in Spain, I think this is the only case where there is such a huge gap in language. I believe el Gallego is the most dramatic of the examples. In many countries in South America they have Spanish and the original Native American Dialect (merged somewhat with either Spanish or Portuguese mainly), but this is considered as a separate language.
And you are right there are many differences now a days from the 'original' Castellano; but I know we can all manage to communicate rather well. There are many words that one person from one area calls item X and that same word can mean item Z to another, but it doesn't mean that i can't tell him good morning or something of the sort.

And as for the comprehension; I know exactly what you mean. I am fomr Costa Rica and Dominican Republic; and the family on the DR side speak SO FAST that I NEED my mom to translate. But hey I have learned little by little and it is part of my culture, and they might say things differently ( instead of saying 'puerta' enunciating the 'r' they say 'pueytah') but in the end i know what they are referring to.

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by =X=

Hablo espanol pero , no muy bein, y menos escribendo. De pura chiripada escogí "¡Me la juego!" on que no sabia que se significaba. En fin era era la selection correcta.

=X=

De que te la juegas, te la juegas! =) A mi me costo much aprender, y no crea que yo se asi de que "ay me la se todas" no para nada. Pere vea que si es dificil! especialmente con todo eso de las tildes (accentos) y los simbolos volteados!

De que nacionalidad eres?

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by columbus

When you say Spanish, do you realise just how many dialects there are in Spain?. I speak/understand/write/read Castillano. I live in Valencia province, where they speak Vallenciano. Quite how you learn this without living in the province I do not know as there are no published dictionaries. Have you ever heard a Basque speaker? to me it sounds like Russian!. In the USA you speak Latin American Spanish (Castillano / idioma de Madrid). I don't know all of them but I can think of at least seven Spanish dialects. We have only I think 4 distinct dialects of English in the UK. But correct me please

I am sure one of our Spanish members will correct me and clarify this.

Taking Spanish in high school was an eye opener to me. I thought the teacher had a speech defect. It was the Castillian dialect he taught, while I had been raised speaking a more, "home boy" Spanish. A combination of English and Spanish in the same sentence, with a different emphasis pronunciation in some words entirely.

Pero, no podemos entiendar que nosotros son diciendo regardless?

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by Alphapheemail

Creo que todos aquí tienen que comer, pero a veces a mi me come el español!

HA!! Te entiendo!

wait. entiendo I understand. entienDO I understood, right? accent on the last "o"?

We need accents!

[=X=]

Originally Posted by Alphapheemail

De que te la juegas, te la juegas! =)

Pues is mejor decho que lo trabajo .

Originally Posted by Alphapheemail

De que nacionalidad eres?

Mi nacionalidad es del los Estaos Unidos, pero mi etnia es de Mexico.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Pero, no podemos entiendar que nosotros son diciendo regardless?

He, My son took spanlish to the next level. He would use words such as cato and shoepato.... I'm so proud of him.

=X=

[=X=]

Originally Posted by columbus

When you say Spanish, do you realise just how many dialects there are in Spain?. ...... In the USA you speak Latin American Spanish (Castillano / idioma de Madrid). I don't know all of them but I can think of at least seven Spanish dialects. We have only I think 4 distinct dialects of English in the UK. But correct me please..

Yes I've heard the Spanish dialects in Spain almost come across as different languages. Where as in Latin America, the Spanish is mostly similar. Difficulty communication between different national us usually do to accents or the speed in which they speak.

However there are some variances that can really get you in trouble since the meaning of a word in one country is common and accepted but means something completely different in another country. And often that can be a profanity . ... Oh dear

=X=

[Banintz]

Parece que de momento yo soy el unico nativo de españa de momento ¡

Y ademas, tambien hablo euskera, that basque language so close to russian ¡

Saludos,

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

HA!! Te entiendo!

wait. entiendo I understand. entienDO I understood, right? accent on the last "o"?

We need accents!

I agree we do need accents. But you had entiendo (I understand) right, there is no accent. Most words the have accents are past tense verbs in 1st and 2nd person (not ALL the time, but 80%) =). Other than that the other rules are way to intricate.

Here is a basic scheme of toggle keys for them:

á = ctrl + alt + a
or alt + 160
or alt + 0225

é = ctrl + alt + e
or alt + 130
or alt + 0233

í = ctrl + alt + i
or alt + 161
or alt + 0237

ú = ctrl + alt + u
or alt + 163
or alt + 0250

ü = alt + 0252

ñ = alt + 0241

ó = ctrl + alt + o
or alt + 162
or alt + 0243

¡(inverse !) = alt + 0161

¿(inverse ?) = alt + 0191

I do not have a mac =(; but I did find some instructions for macs:
Mac Users


When in Costa Rica most of my friends had their computers configured so they could type the accents easily with out the memorization of all those #'s

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Taking Spanish in high school was an eye opener to me. I thought the teacher had a speech defect. It was the Castillian dialect he taught, while I had been raised speaking a more, "home boy" Spanish. A combination of English and Spanish in the same sentence, with a different emphasis pronunciation in some words entirely.

Pero, no podemos entiendar que nosotros son diciendo regardless?

Woah! I think that is a crime against spanish teachers. At least mine was the most militant lady about my speech. Eeek. Well this might be a sign of the times; I am sure there is A LOT of language blending in places that are close to the US/Mexican border. Maybe we are mists of a new dialect in the making...

[desertgrandma]

So........what is the past tense of 'understand'? Like "I understood"

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by =X=

He, My son took spanlish to the next level. He would use words such as cato and shoepato.... I'm so proud of him.

=X=

I am so confused! what was he trying to say? shoeduck? Is the duck infiltrating this thread as well??

[Alphapheemail]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

So........what is the past tense of 'understand'? Like "I understood"

entendí ( the 'I' is implicit)

[desertgrandma]

Originally Posted by Banintz

Parece que de momento yo soy el unico nativo de españa de momento ¡

Y ademas, tambien hablo euskera, that basque language so close to russian ¡

Saludos,

Espana y Mexico y los Estado Unidos no habla la misma Espanol, es verdad. Pero es bueno que te puedo entiender Los 'differences' no es importante.

I am looking for corrections to my pitiful Spanish here, so please, do not hesitate. The only way to learn is to be taught, eh?