Three new Boox readers -- Chinese language video - Page 4

kandwo · 11-10-2022, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Renate

Ok, they are still doing the same silliness.
If you care, look at this thread (and I'll fix it for you): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=349950

Yeah, we had warnings of this.
It seems that Qualcomm was not satisfied with only MSM numbers and SDM numbers and so they had to come up with stupid names (q.v. "Bengal")
I had reported this earlier as Snapdragon 630. (Maybe 620?)
Still, it's a step down from the 636 octocore in the Poke3.

Would the worse CPU translate to general sluggishness when using the device? I'm worried it might make dictionary look ups slower using 3rd party apps such as Goldendict and aard2.

My Kobo Libra 2 is already a nightmare using the built in dictionary in Koreader - it takes ages for it to render a result. I would not want to buy a new device only to discover that dictionary look ups take forever.

If it'll be slower than my Nova 3 I might just pass.

Renate · 11-10-2022, 06:27 AM

I wouldn't think a quadcore would be much worse than an octocore.
I just don't understand why they are going "backwards".
It's not as if battery life has become a problem.

downeaster59 · 11-10-2022, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kandwo

Would the worse CPU translate to general sluggishness when using the device? I'm worried it might make dictionary look ups slower using 3rd party apps such as Goldendict and aard2.

My Kobo Libra 2 is already a nightmare using the built in dictionary in Koreader - it takes ages for it to render a result. I would not want to buy a new device only to discover that dictionary look ups take forever.

If it'll be slower than my Nova 3 I might just pass.

I'm not seeing any unusual sluggishness compared to my Nova 2 or even my Note Air 2. I can try a 3rd party dictionary app and see what happens.

It may be that Onyx believed that a CPU downgrade could work if the Leaf 2 really has a Carta 1200 display that promises faster page turns. No device will be faster than its slowest component. With any eInk device, that's usually the display! Onyx could drop an Apple M2 in there and it wouldn't make much difference.

Renate · 11-10-2022, 06:46 AM

Does this show what you think it should?

Code:

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

downeaster59 · 11-10-2022, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Renate

Does this show what you think it should?

Code:

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

Yes it does.

I'm not seeing any sluggishness compared to other Eink devices - or not yet, at least. I'm also not seeing any benefits in battery life, although I grant you that, given the thin body of the Leaf 2, there isn't much room for a battery. I haven't had the Leaf very long, so it may be a few days before I get a real sense of battery life.

I really like the display on the Leaf 2 so far.

danicca · 11-10-2022, 12:23 PM

If it's not too much hassle I'd really like to see photo of display. Yours is black with flush screen right?

CrazyCoder · 11-10-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by danicca

If it's not too much hassle I'd really like to see photo of display. Yours is black with flush screen right?

Not op, but I have a photo of Leaf 2 and Libra 2 with the same settings in KOReader: https://i.imgur.com/eSY3kj8.jpeg.

Contrast is better on Libra 2.

Not sure if the Onyx frameworks affects it in any way. If I increase the contrast in KOReader from 1.0 to 1.5, it becomes comparable: https://i.imgur.com/K4hEhhP.jpeg.

But I think Libra 2 is still better as it has no additional glass layer.

I have Leaf 2 White on order as well to compare the screens.

Another photo with backlight disabled: https://i.imgur.com/GwkuMn2.jpeg.
Onyx screen is whiter, while Kobo screen has better contrast.

Renate · 11-10-2022, 02:27 PM

Hmm, my preference for buttons is none as they will always be somewhere you grip.
Still, it's interesting the Leaf 2 (contiguous buttons) vs. Libra 2 (separate buttons).

danicca · 11-10-2022, 02:47 PM

Thank you so much!! Libra does look better, wonder if white Leaf will make a difference.

CrazyCoder · 11-10-2022, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Renate

Still, it's interesting the Leaf 2 (contiguous buttons) vs. Libra 2 (separate buttons).

I'm fine with both, the thumb is right on the button the way I grip. Onyx Leaf 2 buttons are easier to press, so I like them a bit more.

CrazyCoder · 11-10-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by danicca

Thank you so much!! Libra does look better, wonder if white Leaf will make a difference.

I had a lot of freezes requiring a reboot on Libra 2 in KOReader. They disable "Autostandby timeout" on this device for better stability, but I found that it freezes less when I actually enable this option (a bit early to say, but I had no freezes so far in 2 days since I enabled that option).

A lot of people complain about the stability of the hardware on Libra devices. If it continues to freeze, I'll return it (still within return window on Amazon).

Leaf 2 is a much more capable device and is easier to mod/customize to your needs. Even if it has slightly less contrast, the form factor, lighter weight and the versatility of Android OS make it a better device for me.

Renate · 11-10-2022, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoder

Onyx Leaf 2 buttons are easier to press, so I like them a bit more.

All pushbuttons are available in an astounding range of activation pressures.
In the US (DigiKey) they seem to rate them in "gram force" (not in Newtons).
The range is about 50 gf to 1000 gf.
The switches on my key fob clicker are 130 gf. I chose it specifically to be light.
Unless your finger is on an actual actuator it's hard to judge what you need.

downeaster59 · 11-10-2022, 03:45 PM

The Leaf 2 ticks off more items in my checklist than the Libra or the Oasis would. I have the Note Air 2, but I really don't use the stylus. If I like the Leaf 2 enough, I may sell my Note Air 2. The seven inch display on the Leaf is a good size for book reading. It's light, even in its case. Having Android gives me some options that I wouldn't have on a Kobo or Kindle device. The buttons don't get in the way when I hold the device. So far, so good!

kekinash · 11-10-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster59

The Leaf 2 ticks off more items in my checklist than the Libra or the Oasis would. I have the Note Air 2, but I really don't use the stylus. If I like the Leaf 2 enough, I may sell my Note Air 2. The seven inch display on the Leaf is a good size for book reading. It's light, even in its case. Having Android gives me some options that I wouldn't have on a Kobo or Kindle device. The buttons don't get in the way when I hold the device. So far, so good!:

ditto!

The Kobo Sage went to my wife. Kindle as a backup device.

ottischwenk · 11-10-2022, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster59

The Leaf 2

Are you using the SD card? Is it possible to choose portable/internal use?
For portable: what file systems does it support (not only FATxx, but also exFAT, NTFS, Extx)?

11-10-2022, 06:27 AM	#47
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	I wouldn't think a quadcore would be much worse than an octocore. I just don't understand why they are going "backwards". It's not as if battery life has become a problem. Last edited by Renate; 11-10-2022 at 06:44 AM.

11-10-2022, 06:46 AM	#49
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	Does this show what you think it should? Code: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo

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danicca Addict Posts: 280 Karma: 517736 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: kindle	If it's not too much hassle I'd really like to see photo of display. Yours is black with flush screen right?

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Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	Hmm, my preference for buttons is none as they will always be somewhere you grip. Still, it's interesting the Leaf 2 (contiguous buttons) vs. Libra 2 (separate buttons).

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danicca Addict Posts: 280 Karma: 517736 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: kindle	Thank you so much!! Libra does look better, wonder if white Leaf will make a difference.

11-10-2022, 03:45 PM	#58
downeaster59 Wizard Posts: 1,251 Karma: 2957301 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester, NY Device: Boox Go 10.3, Kobo Libra 2	The Leaf 2 ticks off more items in my checklist than the Libra or the Oasis would. I have the Note Air 2, but I really don't use the stylus. If I like the Leaf 2 enough, I may sell my Note Air 2. The seven inch display on the Leaf is a good size for book reading. It's light, even in its case. Having Android gives me some options that I wouldn't have on a Kobo or Kindle device. The buttons don't get in the way when I hold the device. So far, so good!