2022 Kindle Basic - Page 5

ZodWallop · 09-15-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

I think people here sometimes obsess over resolution and contrast. Yes, it's nice to have, but I'm not going to throw a less-then-300-dpi device into the trash can.

I still use (and enjoy!) my Nook ST with its 800X600 Pearl screen.

ZodWallop · 09-15-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Aside from the flush screen which one may or may not prefer, it’s lighter, waterproof...

My 2015 Glowlight Plus and Clara HD both use the same 300ppi Carta screen. When I set them side by side, I can see a slight degradation from the flush screen of the Plus, but that difference is only noticeable then. I've never read on the Plus and thought 'oh man, I need to switch to the Clara because of this terrible flush screen!'

tomsem · 09-15-2022, 04:03 PM

This podcast is basically a recounting of the press release, but Len is hoping to interview the head of Kindle group prior to launch, and will probably have a review device in his hands soon.

http://thekindlechronicles.com/tkc-6...1th-generation

It's not really accurate to call it an 'upgrade of Kindle PW3', which is rather a larger form factor. It follows in the Basic line as being more compact and lighter, and in fact is slightly smaller and lighter than the 10th generation Basic (lightest Kindle ever?). It's going to have a newer and more capable processor than previous generation, hoping it is the same as PW5's. I might have to get one when it goes on sale (maybe trade in one of my 'extras').

Despite the lower screen resolution and fewer LEDs, I've found them pleasant to use (too bad they don't have white this time around).

I agree that PW4 overdid the anti-glare measures, at the expense of clarity/contrast. I have 10th gen Kindle next to one here, and it somehow looks better with the normal sort of indirect daylight coming in through my office window. Between the mediocre display and comparatively sluggish performance, I pretty much stopped using the PW4 when I got my first iPad mini, but PW5 has regained 'reading share' on the strength of better performance, display and screen size.

rcentros · 09-15-2022, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shamanNS

Especially if/ when those "conclusions" are based solely on a thing like "once saw a video review"

I thought the consensus here (at MobileRead) was that the screen was not as sharp as the Paperwhite 3.

rcentros · 09-15-2022, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

I think people here sometimes obsess over resolution and contrast. ...

For me it's not really an "obsession" it's a necessity (the contrast anyhow). My eyes don't work well with low contrast screens. Constantia fixes that for me.

JSWolf · 09-15-2022, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

I thought the consensus here (at MobileRead) was that the screen was not as sharp as the Paperwhite 3.

The consensus is that the screen on the PW3 is better then the PW4 (a step backward IMHO).

Paperbackstash · 09-15-2022, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

I thought the consensus here (at MobileRead) was that the screen was not as sharp as the Paperwhite 3.

Yeah, I do get what he means and agree with him. I was pretty letdown with the Paperwhite 4 as with my screen, the difference from the Paperwhite 3 that I was used to, was extreme. I also was excited to have a newer device and figured upgraded meant faster than a previous release with a four year difference...but no. The contrast issues (when I had to start really bolding font for the first time to improve clarity) and sluggishness depressed me. I kept mine but don't use it. When I have to use a paperwhite, I use the older 3, but my main reading is still on the Oasis.

Some may have had better screens, that seems a common issue with the same releases.

haertig · 09-15-2022, 08:07 PM

I bought my daughter a PW4 a few years ago. She loves it, but it's the only eReader she's ever used. I'll make sure not to hand her my PW3 for comparison, based on what I've read in this thread.

JBaby · 09-17-2022, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

It won't be the same because it's not flush. That does bode well for it looking similar to the PW3 and maybe better if it's using the newest eInk screen like the Kobo Libra 2.

Good to know. Thanks. I’d vote PW3 over new. I don’t think Amazon would put in a new screen in the Basic. I hope they have though.

JSWolf · 09-17-2022, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JBaby

Good to know. Thanks. I’d vote PW3 over new. I don’t think Amazon would put in a new screen in the Basic. I hope they have though.

It is a 300dpi screen and given that it's not flush, I would hope it at least comparable to the PW3.

rcentros · 09-17-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JBaby

Good to know. Thanks. I’d vote PW3 over new. I don’t think Amazon would put in a new screen in the Basic. I hope they have though.

If they're putting the PW3 screen in the new Kindle Basic, that wouldn't be a new screen. All I know at this point is that the Paperwhite, 7th Generation had a 300 dpi screen and 4 LEDs -- and that's what they're showing for the new Kindle Basic. I think it would be a really good decision on Amazon's part.

Quoth · 09-17-2022, 11:18 AM

PW3 is still an OK OK 6" ereader, for a Kindle anyway. The PW4 side by side was very marginally not as bright (lights off on both and I bought a 2nd PW3 just after PW4 came out. Son bought a PW4 to replace KK3 and that's what we compared) and the only advantages I can see with 9th Gen Oasis is buttons and bigger.

Micro USB vs USB-C isn't important and most people reading just fiction have no advanatge of 32G vs 4G. The 32G is probably cheaper now than 4G at new now.

So if the new 2022 Kindle Basic is basically a PW3 with USB-C and more Flash, that's fine and far better than prior Basic models or PW2.

JSWolf · 09-17-2022, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

PW3 is still an OK OK 6" ereader, for a Kindle anyway. The PW4 side by side was very marginally not as bright (lights off on both and I bought a 2nd PW3 just after PW4 came out. Son bought a PW4 to replace KK3 and that's what we compared) and the only advantages I can see with 9th Gen Oasis is buttons and bigger.

Micro USB vs USB-C isn't important and most people reading just fiction have no advanatge of 32G vs 4G. The 32G is probably cheaper now than 4G at new now.

So if the new 2022 Kindle Basic is basically a PW3 with USB-C and more Flash, that's fine and far better than prior Basic models or PW2.

Or the PW4 as long as the screen is at least as good as the PW3.

haertig · 09-17-2022, 01:05 PM

I would like to see the difference in screens between the PW3 and the PW4. Does anybody have a link to a comparison video that shows a good, accurate and unbiased depiction of the differences? It would be interesting to see firsthand (OK, secondhand, since it's a video) just how far Amazon reportedly sunk in quality, per what has been said here.

ZodWallop · 09-17-2022, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JBaby

Good to know. Thanks. I’d vote PW3 over new. I don’t think Amazon would put in a new screen in the Basic. I hope they have though.

I'd say the new Basic will at least match the PW3. The 3 isn't exactly using a 'new' screen either and I would bet that the new Basic will at least use a Carta screen, which I believe is the same as the PW3. If anything, the Basic seems to be a PW3 with a lot more storage. It also might have a better processor, and if not, it surely won't have a worse one.

Kindles aren't for me, but Amazon's last two releases have really knocked it out of the park. Kindles before often felt a generation behind. Good for them.

09-15-2022, 04:03 PM	#63
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,939 Karma: 27060151 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	This podcast is basically a recounting of the press release, but Len is hoping to interview the head of Kindle group prior to launch, and will probably have a review device in his hands soon. http://thekindlechronicles.com/tkc-6...1th-generation It's not really accurate to call it an 'upgrade of Kindle PW3', which is rather a larger form factor. It follows in the Basic line as being more compact and lighter, and in fact is slightly smaller and lighter than the 10th generation Basic (lightest Kindle ever?). It's going to have a newer and more capable processor than previous generation, hoping it is the same as PW5's. I might have to get one when it goes on sale (maybe trade in one of my 'extras'). Despite the lower screen resolution and fewer LEDs, I've found them pleasant to use (too bad they don't have white this time around). I agree that PW4 overdid the anti-glare measures, at the expense of clarity/contrast. I have 10th gen Kindle next to one here, and it somehow looks better with the normal sort of indirect daylight coming in through my office window. Between the mediocre display and comparatively sluggish performance, I pretty much stopped using the PW4 when I got my first iPad mini, but PW5 has regained 'reading share' on the strength of better performance, display and screen size. Last edited by tomsem; 09-15-2022 at 04:13 PM.

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09-15-2022, 08:07 PM	#68
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	I bought my daughter a PW4 a few years ago. She loves it, but it's the only eReader she's ever used. I'll make sure not to hand her my PW3 for comparison, based on what I've read in this thread.

09-17-2022, 11:18 AM	#72
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,033 Karma: 105092227 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	PW3 is still an OK OK 6" ereader, for a Kindle anyway. The PW4 side by side was very marginally not as bright (lights off on both and I bought a 2nd PW3 just after PW4 came out. Son bought a PW4 to replace KK3 and that's what we compared) and the only advantages I can see with 9th Gen Oasis is buttons and bigger. Micro USB vs USB-C isn't important and most people reading just fiction have no advanatge of 32G vs 4G. The 32G is probably cheaper now than 4G at new now. So if the new 2022 Kindle Basic is basically a PW3 with USB-C and more Flash, that's fine and far better than prior Basic models or PW2.

09-17-2022, 01:05 PM	#74
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	I would like to see the difference in screens between the PW3 and the PW4. Does anybody have a link to a comparison video that shows a good, accurate and unbiased depiction of the differences? It would be interesting to see firsthand (OK, secondhand, since it's a video) just how far Amazon reportedly sunk in quality, per what has been said here.