2022 Kindle Basic - Page 2

haertig · 09-13-2022, 04:44 PM

I think they may have just obsoleted the Paperwhite.

j.p.s · 09-13-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

Saying epub is supported "through conversion" is stupid. By that logic, it supports every format known to man - as long as you first convert it to a format that the device actually understands. Duh.

amazon provides the conversion, so that is support.

But as others have pointed out, the UK site says (likely in error) that EPUB is supported natively.

JSWolf · 09-13-2022, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

I think they may have just obsoleted the Paperwhite.

The PW5 has a 6.8" screen. The new Kindle Basic is in no way ever going to obsolete any Kindle with a larger screen.

haertig · 09-13-2022, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by j.p.s

amazon provides the conversion, so that is support.

I disagree. The device does not support it.

The "support" you talk of is an outside thing, it is a service provided by Amazon that is completely separate from the device itself. The device knows nothing - zilch - about the formats it supposedly "supports through conversion". If Amazon starts charging for the service, limits it only to books purchased from Amazon, or drops it entirely - could it still be said that the device "supports the format"? Can you sideload a book in this "supported format"? No. Because the device does not actually support the format, except through the magic of misleading marketing jargon.

haertig · 09-13-2022, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The PW5 has a 6.8" screen. The new Kindle Basic is in no way ever going to obsolete any Kindle with a larger screen.

You are assuming that everyone wants a bigger screen.

It's kind of like the iPhones that kept getting bigger and bigger. Eventually a segment of the market rebelled and Apple was forced (via market pressure) to start offering smaller iPhones again. Not everyone can (or wants to) fit something the size of a home theater setup into their pocket.

DenS · 09-13-2022, 05:28 PM

I'm very curious to know if the screen sharpness is better than that of the PW5. And if they also have the same performance. If the answer is yes, I'll trade my PW5 for it. I'm just sad that there is no white option

Badcatalex · 09-13-2022, 05:29 PM

Oh great, now the Oasis seems like even more of a hard sell for those interested in upgrading.

8 GB of storage with no USB-C, with a slightly bigger screen than the current Paperwhite, when the basic model of Kindle has 16 GB of storage now and not only has USB-C, but also a 300 PPI display.

Basically, the base model is now better in some ways than the Oasis. At least it is a good upgrade for people still using the Paperwhite 2 and 3.

JSWolf · 09-13-2022, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

You are assuming that everyone wants a bigger screen.

It's kind of like the iPhones that kept getting bigger and bigger. Eventually a segment of the market rebelled and Apple was forced (via market pressure) to start offering smaller iPhones again. Not everyone can (or wants to) fit something the size of a home theater setup into their pocket.

There's no way a 6" screen Kindle would ever obsolete a Kindle with a 6.8" screen. The Kindle Basic can sit beside the PW5, but to obsolete it? Never.

JSWolf · 09-13-2022, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Badcatalex

Oh great, now the Oasis seems like even more of a hard sell for those interested in upgrading.

8 GB of storage with no USB-C, with a slightly bigger screen than the current Paperwhite, when the basic model of Kindle has 16 GB of storage now and not only has USB-C, but also a 300 PPI display.

Basically, the base model is now better in some ways than the Oasis. At least it is a good upgrade for people still using the Paperwhite 2 and 3.

Before you buy another 6" Reader, I suggest checking out the PW5. You may find you like the larger screen. I went for the Kobo Aura H2O (almost 7 years ago) with a 6.8" screen and I like the larger screen. USB-C and 16GB does not make the Kindle Basic better. If you are swapping from PW or PW2, then USB-C is not an upgrade to have as you'll have microUSB cables for the older Kindle.

JSWolf · 09-13-2022, 05:41 PM

No videos yet to show how the screen is.

haertig · 09-13-2022, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you are swapping from PW or PW2, then USB-C is not an upgrade to have as you'll have microUSB cables for the older Kindle.

It could have something to do with the European law that says all new devices must have USB-C, and only USB-C, charging ports by 2026. You may not be able to easily find a replacement micro-USB cable after that, should your existing one go bad.

This is a case of government meddling in places where they don't belong. Ten years from now, when USB-C is old school and has been replaced by better technology, Europe will still be stuck with it because of their ill-advised new law. There are not a whole lot of things dumber than politicians mandating technology.

Sirtel · 09-13-2022, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Badcatalex

Oh great, now the Oasis seems like even more of a hard sell for those interested in upgrading.

8 GB of storage with no USB-C, with a slightly bigger screen than the current Paperwhite, when the basic model of Kindle has 16 GB of storage now and not only has USB-C, but also a 300 PPI display.

Basically, the base model is now better in some ways than the Oasis. At least it is a good upgrade for people still using the Paperwhite 2 and 3.

My Oasis has 32 GB of storage. And of course the Oasis has physical buttons.

But I agree that Amazon will have to upgrade the Oasis fast, or drop it altogether.

rcentros · 09-13-2022, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

Saying epub is supported "through conversion" is stupid. By that logic, it supports every format known to man - as long as you first convert it to a format that the device actually understands. Duh.

Agreed. You might as well say that every eReader supports every format — so long as you can convert it.

rcentros · 09-13-2022, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

...USB-C, both 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi, Dark Mode. 158g, ~25% lighter than the (slightly larger) Paperwhite.

That .8" makes a big difference in the size of the screen. I've got a 6.8" Aura HD and the screen seems much bigger than my 6" eReaders' screens.

rcentros · 09-13-2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

I think they may have just obsoleted the Paperwhite.

No, they just made a nice upgrade for their bottom line eReader. 300 dpi screen up from 167 dpi (which never made sense) is a big jump. If I was going to buy a new eReader from Amazon (I'm not in the market) this is the one I would go for (provided it was on sale for about $80). This puts Amazon well ahead (in specs) in the low-end market. I'm curious to see how good (or not) the lighting is for this one.

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09-13-2022, 04:44 PM	#16
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,939 Karma: 34855886 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Galaxy Tab A9+, Moto G7	I think they may have just obsoleted the Paperwhite.

09-13-2022, 05:28 PM	#21
DenS Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 2500000 Join Date: Apr 2021 Device: Kindle Basic 11th (2024), Paperwhite 12th	I'm very curious to know if the screen sharpness is better than that of the PW5. And if they also have the same performance. If the answer is yes, I'll trade my PW5 for it. I'm just sad that there is no white option

09-13-2022, 05:29 PM	#22
Badcatalex I draw. Posts: 131 Karma: 4278578 Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Midwestern US Device: K1, K4B, KPW3, KOA3, KF7 (2019)	Oh great, now the Oasis seems like even more of a hard sell for those interested in upgrading. 8 GB of storage with no USB-C, with a slightly bigger screen than the current Paperwhite, when the basic model of Kindle has 16 GB of storage now and not only has USB-C, but also a 300 PPI display. Basically, the base model is now better in some ways than the Oasis. At least it is a good upgrade for people still using the Paperwhite 2 and 3.

09-13-2022, 05:41 PM	#25
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,718 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	No videos yet to show how the screen is.