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go to sign the petition at
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-To-Read |
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I found a priceless comment on Amazon.com forum discussion
http://www.amazon.com/Authors-Guild-...sin=B00154JDAI --- quote --- i'm still interested in why they're not upset that we can increase our font size on the fly. it's got to be eating into their large-print edition sales.. they still aren't recognizing the *fact* - ahem - that text to speech capability does not constitute a free, second copy of a book. found a random house book today that i'd like to read. i'll be getting that one from the library. --- end of quote --- |
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As we discussed when this originally happened, this whole thing comes down to contract negotiations between authors/publishers/distributers. The rest of it is just posturing by one side or the other to try and get better contract terms. |
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I just don't see the link between TTS and audiobooks... not until technology is improved beyond my expectations.
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1. The technology will improve, and the day may come when TTS really does infringe (in a way that's meaningful to the average person) on licenses that are reserved for true audio performances. At that point, it would be much more difficult to draw a line in the sand. 2. There may well be infringement right now on technical rights that are currently spelled out in book contracts, involving sound or audible versions of books. I consider it a safe bet that Amazon would not have pulled back on what was a great marketing stroke if they didn't see genuine legal issues in front of them. They tried to make it sound as though they just wanted rights-holders to feel "comfortable," but unless Amazon has had a personality transplant, that's a load of dingoes' kidneys. The merits of all of this are clearly debatable. But it's a discussion that needs to take place--and would not have without the AG actions. |
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TTS will never match the high quality readings of audiobooks. Thus the function is not a threat to my buying audiobooks. I buy several dozen annually and would continue to do so as I actually enjoy hearing a book I have read performed by every talented individuals.
I simply do not see how TTS is any different than other forms of format shifting, which is generally legal in the US, right? Maybe next they need to go after those evil mom's & dads who read to their kids at night before bed. After all, they too as performing a printed and copyrighted work without paying a fee to do so. The way this all sounds publishers feel books are only to be read quietly by one person then thrown away because they also want to criminalize the used book market as well, let alone the evil librarians and their story hours, heck Border's still have story times for kids where someone reads a book to them in the store. That is a performance, right? btw, that was all mostly sarcasm at the ludicrous stance of the publishers, and yes some of the authors as well, save for one or two shining examples around here. ![]() |
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I can imagine listening to audiobook partially because I want to hear the voice, and way of expressing words, of a particular lector. |
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Even so, I see this as more a matter of format shifting than of "audio books." There's no audio involved; nor is there a public performance or a recording. As far as I can tell, the existing legal arrangements for licensing of audio performances just don't apply. Xenophon Obligatory disclaimer: As usual -- I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Should you require advice on which you may rely, seek out a lawyer who specializes in the appropriate area of the law. |
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We probably will reach the stage where TTS can read a book in a "neutral" manner, in a realistic sounding voice, but the days when it was sufficient for a decent audiobook to consist of simply that are long past. |
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Just compare it with (classical) music. It is much easier to turn written music into sound than written words into spoken language, but computer-played music (not just music created with the help of a computer) with synthesized instruments is still light years from human-played music with real instruments... and people still buy classical music played and recorded by humans.
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I didn't know that most blind people can't read braille. I agree about the audible menus but it seems like a shame to miss out on the search and annotate functions. But on the other hand, the Springer Design / Humanware devices have probably dealt with that issue already. |
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At any rate, it's a free country; you're free to maintain that authors deserve no better than ramen if they choose to try to make a living doing something they love. I hope you like reading fanfic. It's true that I hope my Kindle can still read to me; I really like that feature. It's also true that I hope the authors whose work I enjoy wind up well enough compensated that they can afford to / are willing to / keep writing instead of having to give it up to sell insurance or something. I'm hoping we can work out some sort of happy medium here, and I'm willing to give it some time to see how it plays out. |
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You know the more I read their press release the more I dislike them. Fools with blind greed that do not see a business opportunity in front of them if they see one. I guess they is why they are a “GUILD” and not a “corporation”. Quote:
Do you listen too much to TTS? I do and I’ve listen to audio books as well I can tell you there is no comparison. The readers inflections and the background music give something to the production that will never be rivaled in TTS. The difference is as stark as watching Hamlet in a high school production and going to a Broadway production. While the high school production is tolerable it is in no way going to take business away from a broadway production. =X= |
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