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Old 07-06-2022, 09:34 PM   #1
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Bracketed numbers appearing in epubs

Frequently I come across breaks in the epub text that show [1/3], and later on, [2/3], and finally [3/3]...

Right now I am reading a book with seven breaks ... [*/7] ...

Why is this, and how can I prevent this weirdness. Thanks!
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Old 07-06-2022, 10:00 PM   #2
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Frequently I come across breaks in the epub text that show [1/3], and later on, [2/3], and finally [3/3]...

Right now I am reading a book with seven breaks ... [*/7] ...

Why is this, and how can I prevent this weirdness. Thanks!
If the epub is not DRMmed, learn to use either Sigil or calibre's ebook editor to remove those annoying bits.
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Old 07-07-2022, 08:03 AM   #3
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Frequently I come across breaks in the epub text that show [1/3], and later on, [2/3], and finally [3/3]...

Right now I am reading a book with seven breaks ... [*/7] ...

Why is this, and how can I prevent this weirdness. Thanks!
Some have page numbers too. Section numbers and page numbers might be needed in legal documents and textbooks. Not in ebooks of fiction.

I use a Regex search in the Calibre Editor to remove them all in one go. Test Regex with find first!
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...in addition... sometimes footnotes use [x] type notation...although I haven't found any, yet, that use [x/x]
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Old 07-08-2022, 12:21 PM   #5
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@Magnus, are those section breaks or footnotes? Can you give us a sample of the relevant HTML/CSS code?
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@Magnus, are those section breaks or footnotes? Can you give us a sample of the relevant HTML/CSS code?
This is the quandry. I opened the epub editor and came to the point where one of the bracketed breaks appears, and it's unclear why this is happening. I'm not seeing anything that accounts for what I am seeing in Moon Reader.
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If you don't see anything like that in the code, it could simply be a function of moonreader. It could be displaying something along the lines of [pages/pages remaining] or [section/sections remaining]. Id give your moonreader settings a gander and see if there is something like that in there.
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This is the quandry. I opened the epub editor and came to the point where one of the bracketed breaks appears, and it's unclear why this is happening. I'm not seeing anything that accounts for what I am seeing in Moon Reader.
Can you post a bit of code? You could replace any text with Lorem Ipsum...

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I had to read this multiple times to see what's going on. I, too, have used Moon Reader and have seen those and did some research. Upon my deep digging to find the issue, it turns out Moon Reader tends to break up file sizes it sees as "too big" into sections. For some reason, it can't render an internal file over a certain size as one continuous section and breaks up larger files into sections. Thus the brackets, or "section breaks." This is a limitation of MR which I find rather ridiculous.
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Old 07-10-2022, 01:52 PM   #10
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I had to read this multiple times to see what's going on. I, too, have used Moon Reader and have seen those and did some research. Upon my deep digging to find the issue, it turns out Moon Reader tends to break up file sizes it sees as "too big" into sections. For some reason, it can't render an internal file over a certain size as one continuous section and breaks up larger files into sections. Thus the brackets, or "section breaks." This is a limitation of MR which I find rather ridiculous.
Oh, hell, is that the old over-256K-ish limitation? The one from ages ago? I forget the actual limitation figure now; we use 250-300kb as a guideline in my shop. We still run into that--we get "creative" writers that don't have chapters or sections or any viable way to break up (say) 100K words. Those will exceed the display limits and you'll see a break on ADE, for example. We explain it upfront to the customer, they say "okay" and then, when they see the breaks, they get cranky. (sigh).

So, the easy solution is for bookmakers to know their craft? Or for buyers to know how to modify their ePUB files?

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Oh, hell, is that the old over-256K-ish limitation? The one from ages ago? I forget the actual limitation figure now; we use 250-300kb as a guideline in my shop. We still run into that--we get "creative" writers that don't have chapters or sections or any viable way to break up (say) 100K words. Those will exceed the display limits and you'll see a break on ADE, for example. We explain it upfront to the customer, they say "okay" and then, when they see the breaks, they get cranky. (sigh).

So, the easy solution is for bookmakers to know their craft? Or for buyers to know how to modify their ePUB files?

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It was a limitation because the first Reader to run RSMSDK was the old Sony Reader PRS-505. It needed this limitation to work well.

Magnus, where is it these eBooks that show the bracketed number come from? I've seen some self-published Kindle eBooks were it was all one big HTML file.
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It was a limitation because the first Reader to run RSMSDK was the old Sony Reader PRS-505. It needed this limitation to work well.

Magnus, where is it these eBooks that show the bracketed number come from? I've seen some self-published Kindle eBooks were it was all one big HTML file.
Yes, that 256K-ish limit--we've used that at my shop for years. Just to be on the safe side. (Becuse, sure as hell, the moment you ignore it, you know damned well the customer will upload the file at some older spot and it will bite you right in the tuchus.)

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Yes, that 256K-ish limit--we've used that at my shop for years. Just to be on the safe side. (Becuse, sure as hell, the moment you ignore it, you know damned well the customer will upload the file at some older spot and it will bite you right in the tuchus.)

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And there are still people using these older Readers. So keeping to that size per HTML file will save you a lot of hassle.
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