Is it possible to have non-popup, permanent, actual footnotes?

mbrisco · 06-04-2022, 11:40 PM

The Pop-up Footnote thing is really great, but there are some books where I need to follow every footnote, so it'd be better to have all of them just shown on the page from the start. Like this:

According to this thread from last year, the In-page Footnotes I'm looking for should show up by default on any book that has footnotes. But I've never seen any In-page Footnotes for any of my books, though when I enable Pop-up Footnotes, the pop-ups work perfectly:

Is there a setting I'm missing? How do I get footnotes to show up as permanent In-page Footnotes on the page? I know the two places in the settings (Gear > Taps and gestures > Links, Document > Style tweaks > Miscellaneous > In-page footnotes), and I think I've tried every possible combination of them without any luck.

Jellby · 06-05-2022, 05:39 AM

I don't understand it. If the first screenshot shows what you want (which is what I understand as in-page footnotes too), it seem you already got it. Or is that a mock up?

If you want to see the footnote in its own page (to maybe see footnotes-in-footnotes, for example), you can long-tap on the [33] and select "Follow link".

mbrisco · 06-05-2022, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

I don't understand it. If the first screenshot shows what you want (which is what I understand as in-page footnotes too), it seem you already got it. Or is that a mock up?

If you want to see the footnote in its own page (to maybe see footnotes-in-footnotes, for example), you can long-tap on the [33] and select "Follow link".

No, it's just a screenshot that @Frenzie posted. I want to make that happen on my own instance. I already know how to see the footnote in its own page

Just want those sweet sweet bottom-of-page true footnotes.

Frenzie · 06-06-2022, 05:24 PM

The popup footnotes don't work exactly the same (I know, I know), so there are a few scenarios that it can support the rest can't.

But note that only proper per-spec footnotes are enabled by default. What we call classic classname footnotes aren't.

mbrisco · 06-06-2022, 10:55 PM

So I guess I got "lucky" with books that always have slightly off-spec footnotes? Otherwise they'd show up normally, right?

I remember seeing a post where you(?) said the pop-up footnotes are handled by KOReader and the in-page footnotes are handled by crengine, so I guess KOReader is handling pop-up footnotes better (they haven't failed me yet) than crengine (has failed me every time).

Frenzie · 06-08-2022, 07:12 AM

You could go to style tweaks and enable classic classname footnotes (long press for default) and see what it does.

mbrisco · 06-22-2022, 03:15 AM

No difference I'm afraid. Stubbornly a no-go on all the books I've tried

06-04-2022, 11:40 PM	#1
mbrisco (gtfo/freak) Posts: 115 Karma: 2288752 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: Likebook Alita	Is it possible to have non-popup, permanent, actual footnotes? The Pop-up Footnote thing is really great, but there are some books where I need to follow every footnote, so it'd be better to have all of them just shown on the page from the start. Like this: According to this thread from last year, the In-page Footnotes I'm looking for should show up by default on any book that has footnotes. But I've never seen any In-page Footnotes for any of my books, though when I enable Pop-up Footnotes, the pop-ups work perfectly: Is there a setting I'm missing? How do I get footnotes to show up as permanent In-page Footnotes on the page? I know the two places in the settings (Gear > Taps and gestures > Links, Document > Style tweaks > Miscellaneous > In-page footnotes), and I think I've tried every possible combination of them without any luck.

06-06-2022, 10:55 PM	#5
mbrisco (gtfo/freak) Posts: 115 Karma: 2288752 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: Likebook Alita	So I guess I got "lucky" with books that always have slightly off-spec footnotes? Otherwise they'd show up normally, right? I remember seeing a post where you(?) said the pop-up footnotes are handled by KOReader and the in-page footnotes are handled by crengine, so I guess KOReader is handling pop-up footnotes better (they haven't failed me yet) than crengine (has failed me every time). Last edited by mbrisco; 06-20-2022 at 11:26 PM.

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06-05-2022, 05:39 AM	#2
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,570 Karma: 20150435 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	I don't understand it. If the first screenshot shows what you want (which is what I understand as in-page footnotes too), it seem you already got it. Or is that a mock up? If you want to see the footnote in its own page (to maybe see footnotes-in-footnotes, for example), you can long-tap on the [33] and select "Follow link".

06-06-2022, 05:24 PM	#4
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,786 Karma: 731691 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	The popup footnotes don't work exactly the same (I know, I know), so there are a few scenarios that it can support the rest can't. But note that only proper per-spec footnotes are enabled by default. What we call classic classname footnotes aren't.

06-08-2022, 07:12 AM	#6
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,786 Karma: 731691 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	You could go to style tweaks and enable classic classname footnotes (long press for default) and see what it does.

06-22-2022, 03:15 AM	#7
mbrisco (gtfo/freak) Posts: 115 Karma: 2288752 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: Likebook Alita	No difference I'm afraid. Stubbornly a no-go on all the books I've tried